Success of X1 SUV and lack of extra capacity at Oxford Mini plant could see the German car maker move some production to Wiltshire, although BMW has officially denied it

BMW is said to be looking at transferring more car production to the UK in light of booming demand for the X1 SUV, among other models – and it is considering taking over the Honda plant in Swindon, according to Autocar sources. 

The Honda factory is currently scheduled to close in 2021 when production of the Civic ends, but sources understand BMW is in discussions to take on the site after that date. However, BMW has officially denied these claims. A short statement read: "BMW has absolutely no plans to buy the Honda plant in Swindon."

Yet despite the official line there are a number of reasons that BMW is said by Autocar sources to be looking closely at expanding its operation in the UK, including the highly integrated production system already in place here. 

BMW builds Minis, which are based on the UKL1 transverse-engine platform, at Oxford, using engines from its Hams Hall plant near Birmingham and body panels from its pressing plant near Swindon. 

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Currently, BMW also contracts Mini production to the VDL Nedcar factory in the Netherlands. Last year, VDL said output rocketed from 169,000 cars in 2017 to more than 200,000, due to the launch of the new BMW X1, based on the same architecture as the Mini family. 

X1 demand is very strong, accounting for more than 13% of all global BMW sales. 

Autocar recently revealed some 1 Series production could be moved to the UK, a car BMW sold around 200,000 units of globally last year. 

Another clue that BMW is preparing to re-allocate UKL production appears on the VDL company website, where it states it expects fewer orders from BMW next year and, perhaps, in the years beyond that. The company has reduced its flexible workforce by more than 1000 employees. 

BMW has also obtained outline planning permission to extend its Swindon pressing facility. 

BMW insiders remain tightlipped, admitting only that “some reorganisation” is being considered at Mini Oxford. 

With BMW selling around 687,000 UKL1-based cars last year – made up of the 1 Series, 2 Series, Mini, X1 and X2 – basing much of this in one place would make huge financial sense, as well reducing the length of supply lines post-Brexit. 

Autocar understands the Oxford plant is currently running flat out, hitting a daily production rate of 1100 cars.

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27 March 2019

Wow a good news manufacturing story.

27 March 2019

However I suspect this will receive much less press coverage than Honda shutting its plant. It does not fit the narrative that only bad things can happen with Brexit approaching.

27 March 2019
armstrm wrote:

However I suspect this will receive much less press coverage than Honda shutting its plant. It does not fit the narrative that only bad things can happen with Brexit approaching.

 

There’s none so blind as those who refuse to see.

The negative impact of Brexit on industry is undeniable. But parliament taking a no deal scenario off the table must give the car industry hope.

27 March 2019

scrap, do you even understand that the majority of our exports (56%) are to the rest of the world, not the EU?  And do you understand that that majority has been growing for decades, and that exports to the EU will become less and less important?  Do you understand that emerging economies are the future for the UK, like Brazil?  Do you understand that most world trade is under World Trade Organisation rules?  Do you understand that most world countries trade with the EU under WTO rules?  Do you understand that the US and China trade with the EU under WTO rules?  Do you understand what is about to happen to Italy?  Do you further understand what will happen to France (because of Italy)?  Do you understand what will happen to the Euro when Italy crashes?  Finally, do you understand what will happen to the EU and why it would be better to be on the outside of it when it happens?

Just saying.

27 March 2019
Bazzer wrote:

scrap, do you even understand that the majority of our exports (56%) are to the rest of the world, not the EU?  And do you understand that that majority has been growing for decades, and that exports to the EU will become less and less important?  Do you understand that emerging economies are the future for the UK, like Brazil?  Do you understand that most world trade is under World Trade Organisation rules?  Do you understand that most world countries trade with the EU under WTO rules?  Do you understand that the US and China trade with the EU under WTO rules?  Do you understand what is about to happen to Italy?  Do you further understand what will happen to France (because of Italy)?  Do you understand what will happen to the Euro when Italy crashes?  Finally, do you understand what will happen to the EU and why it would be better to be on the outside of it when it happens?

Just saying.

So 44% of our exports are to the EU ? Why is it that leavers cant understand percentages - listen to them and youd think the refurendun was won by a landslide, not a slight win at 52 to 48. You reckon we can afford to loose/disrupt 44% of our trade ? You reckon just under half isnt very much ? If we leave the EU, within 10 years the UK will break up, if the EU does break up as you appear to be predicting, it will lead to war.

27 March 2019

First of all, we don't have proportional representation in Britain - elections and referendums are won by 'first past the post'.  I would actually agree that it's not good, but it's what we have.  So it doesn't matter if Leave had won by one vote!  Secondly, I never said we can afford to lose 44% of our trade, I was merely pointing out that MOST of our trade is with the rest of the world, not the EU...AND that that figure (with the EU) has been decreasing for decades.  It is becoming less important with time, and emerging economies will become more important for us.  It is vital that we are out of the EU for us to trade with no tariffs with the rest of the world (ideally).

Future of the EU/UK:  There is no evidence to show that the UK will break up if we leave the EU.  Support for Scottish independence shows no sign of strengthening.  There is equally no evidence for war among EU states when the EU finally collapses.  Traditionally, war has been fought on power issues.  The future will be about resources, not power.  Europe has adequate mixed resources, and is able to import resources.  From the ashes of the inevitable collapse of the EU will rise something called the Common Market, or EEC.  This will be a trading group, not a political one.  Sound familiar?  Were you asked about the continuing politicisation of the EU?  Were you asked about free movement between EU countries?  Were you asked about mass immigration?  Were you asked about a united states of Europe?  When were those referendums (referenda)?

27 March 2019
Bazzer wrote:

First of all, we don't have proportional representation in Britain - elections and referendums are won by 'first past the post'.  I would actually agree that it's not good, but it's what we have.  So it doesn't matter if Leave had won by one vote!  Secondly, I never said we can afford to lose 44% of our trade, I was merely pointing out that MOST of our trade is with the rest of the world, not the EU...AND that that figure (with the EU) has been decreasing for decades.  It is becoming less important with time, and emerging economies will become more important for us.  It is vital that we are out of the EU for us to trade with no tariffs with the rest of the world (ideally).

Future of the EU/UK:  There is no evidence to show that the UK will break up if we leave the EU.  Support for Scottish independence shows no sign of strengthening.  There is equally no evidence for war among EU states when the EU finally collapses.  Traditionally, war has been fought on power issues.  The future will be about resources, not power.  Europe has adequate mixed resources, and is able to import resources.  From the ashes of the inevitable collapse of the EU will rise something called the Common Market, or EEC.  This will be a trading group, not a political one.  Sound familiar?  Were you asked about the continuing politicisation of the EU?  Were you asked about free movement between EU countries?  Were you asked about mass immigration?  Were you asked about a united states of Europe?  When were those referendums (referenda)?

 

Picking up on just one of your quotes..."The future will be about resources, not power"...the ownership of those same resources equals having that power and is why others may go to war, to take them from you and thus the transfer of resources (power) is completed. Example?...Hitlers Nazi Germany invading Russia to capture the oil fields, agri resources and factory capacity, that belonged to the latter as resources and were coverted by the former, to enable them to feed their domestic population and prosecute the war against the allies.

27 March 2019
typos1 wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

scrap, do you even understand that the majority of our exports (56%) are to the rest of the world, not the EU?  And do you understand that that majority has been growing for decades, and that exports to the EU will become less and less important?  Do you understand that emerging economies are the future for the UK, like Brazil?  Do you understand that most world trade is under World Trade Organisation rules?  Do you understand that most world countries trade with the EU under WTO rules?  Do you understand that the US and China trade with the EU under WTO rules?  Do you understand what is about to happen to Italy?  Do you further understand what will happen to France (because of Italy)?  Do you understand what will happen to the Euro when Italy crashes?  Finally, do you understand what will happen to the EU and why it would be better to be on the outside of it when it happens?

Just saying.

So 44% of our exports are to the EU ? Why is it that leavers cant understand percentages - listen to them and youd think the refurendun was won by a landslide, not a slight win at 52 to 48. You reckon we can afford to loose/disrupt 44% of our trade ? You reckon just under half isnt very much ? If we leave the EU, within 10 years the UK will break up, if the EU does break up as you appear to be predicting, it will lead to war.

The Irony LMFAO. if we stay in the EU then the UK will be dead within 5 years. The first thing Scotland will want is a “second referendum” which the UK will have ZERO chance of stopping and guess why? Only the remaining retards are not clever enough to work that out.

27 March 2019
Bazzer wrote:

scrap, do you even understand that the majority of our exports (56%) are to the rest of the world, not the EU?  And do you understand that that majority has been growing for decades, and that exports to the EU will become less and less important?  Do you understand that emerging economies are the future for the UK, like Brazil?  Do you understand that most world trade is under World Trade Organisation rules?  Do you understand that most world countries trade with the EU under WTO rules?  Do you understand that the US and China trade with the EU under WTO rules?  Do you understand what is about to happen to Italy?  Do you further understand what will happen to France (because of Italy)?  Do you understand what will happen to the Euro when Italy crashes?  Finally, do you understand what will happen to the EU and why it would be better to be on the outside of it when it happens?

Just saying.

 

Bazzer, do you understand that if we leave the EU without a deal, not only do we lose single market access to that market, but also preferential deals with a host of other countries too? Do you understand that our negotiating position outside the EU is worse?

Oh, and do tell me about major exporting nations working exclusively on WTO terms. I’d love to know.

Honeslty, the ignorance of the Brexiters is breathtaking.

27 March 2019

Yet again (again!!!) you fail to understand what is being said.  No one is talking about trading ONLY on WTO rules!!!  What is wrong with your sense of comprehension?  What Brexit is, is a chance for us:

Politically - to regain our sovereignty.  We will once again be able to set our own laws, our own immigration policy, police our borders.  A nation state is not sovereign if it cannot fully set its own laws and govern itself without interference.

Economically - to be able to FREE TRADE with any country we choose.  Here's a history lesson for you - read up on Sir Stamford Raffles, and see how and why he managed to take a tiny little place like Singapore, and build it into the empire it is now, economically (and one of the best places to live in the world).  We really could be the Singapore of Europe - it's within our grasp.  Why do you think the EU is so scared of that?  Think about it - if you can!  A few years back, there was talk of Ireland doing just that, but they turned the other way and became firm 'Europeans'.  Yeah, how's that working out for them?  Ireland is going to require €80 BILLION in a bail out soon, and guess what...there's no one to lend it to them!  Ireland is going to crash, big time!  At the same time, they plan to inject 1 million immigrants by 2040.  they have a population of 4.7 million, so that's an immigration injection of 22% of the current population.  But back to Britain:  As I have tried to explain before, tariffs are taxes on consumers.  They also restrict choice.  The EU imposes taxes to protect its own manufacturing interests...by imposing taxes on its own citizens!!!  It's incredible.  Read up on the Common Agricultural Policy, so beloved by the French.  Who does it serve?  The French!

Your problem is that you don't understand it all.  You don't understand what Brexit is, why it is necessary, and why the EU REALLY fears us being a mighty economic powerhouse.  Inward investment (ironically by EU countries) into the UK is huge...and growing.  Lots of EU companies understand what will happen if we leave, and they want a part of it.

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