22 February 2013

The all-new Range Rover is an epic machine. But is it better than the sportscar-on-steriods Porsche Cayenne. Steve Sutcliffe takes to the road to find out.

Next week...Sutcliffe takes the pair off-road

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22 February 2013

Just saw a new Range Rover about 10 minutes ago on the roads here in New York.  First time I've seen it in the flesh, its lovely.  Those daytime running LED lamps in the front are definintely eye catching.

He said that they got the body control right on the Rover, but I must say: when he was pushing it through some of those corners it looked like it was about to roll over.  Not so sure about the body control thing.  The Porsche is far more planted through the twisty stuff.  I guess thats the tradeoff for extreme luxury though.

23 February 2013

shouldnt the supercharged RR be compared to the cayenne turbo?, why didnt you guys used a cayenne diesel s instead. Even if you wanted to be bias can you not alteast make a proper review?

23 February 2013

Steve said that "...if you want to compare them (as SUV's), it's got to be the Range Rover".  I rarely disagree with him, but what he should have concluded is this, IMHO: "If you want to compare them, then you need to define clearly what you want.  Do you want a leisurely, refined, elegant ride?  Then get the RR.  Do you want a sporty, crisp-steering, great-cornering ride with road-noise input? Then get the Cayenne.  So, Steve was right in an earlier comment in which he felt these were really not competitors, and with that I agree. Their market segments differ considerably.


23 February 2013

Based on this review, the RR is the better car for 95% of journeys, which was my preconception.  For the 5% when you just want to entertain yourself by throwing the car down the road, you don't want to do that with the children and the dog in the back, plus you are very well off and can afford another car better suited to the purpose.  To make a two ton car go, stop and turn like the Cayenne is a great feat of engineering but, to quote the French general, C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le sportscar.


23 February 2013

Yeah I agree Mr Sutcliffe.  They aren't rivals at all, just an excuse for a test drive video I think.  And the Range Rover winning.... that was a surprise.... not!

23 February 2013

Taking a diesel car from the Large SUV category and comparing it to a petrol car in the Sports SUV category is like comparing a Mondeo with an Elise?  I was considering changing my V6 Diesel Cayenne for a bottom of the range V6 Diesel Range Rover (Sport)  and this Autocar comparison has not helped me at all.  

23 February 2013

I haven't even watched the video, because I know exactly which car will win. Would Autocar say that the Range Rover was inferior to one of its rivals? Hmm...

23 February 2013

It just shows the sheer arrogance of JLR that they think they can compete with the finest engineers in the world and even charge a similar amount for their shoddy cars. The 0-62 times are 6.9 seconds and 4.7 seconds respectively and Autocar still claims the Range Rover is the better car!

24 February 2013

<quote>The 0-62 times are 6.9 seconds and 4.7 seconds respectively and Autocar still claims the Range Rover is the better car!</ quote >


You seem to fit the Cayenne customer profile. Baddest and fastest is best. Or you're 11.

25 February 2013

Sorry?  Have you ever owned a Porsche.  I have, and I can only say that Porsche's engineering is quaint, quirky and devoid of any prowess.  Fundementally, who would overhang an engine out the back for that reversing through a hedge feeling, or dogbone the polar moment of inertia as on a 924/944, for that 'impossible to get it back' feeling, once it starts to let go?  I would remind you, Sir, that the finest engineers are British.  Do you not know who won the wars?  Both of them, lest you forget.


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