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All-new engine will gradually replace current AMG-sourced V8, while Ford V12 production will be brought back to UK
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16 April 2020

Aston Martin’s hybridised V6 will rapidly be deployed across most of the marque’s range once it has made its debut in the Valhalla supercar, Autocar has learned.

The all-new powerplant, due to enter production in 2022, will replace the Mercedes-AMG 4.0-litre V8 that’s used in the Vantage, the lower reaches of the DB11 range and the soon-to-be-launched DBX SUV.

“Mercedes have made no secret of where their engine technology is moving to, and obviously we don’t foresee four-cylinder engines in our Astons,” CEO Andy Palmer told Autocar. “So we’ve got to make our own journey.”

With integrated electrical assistance, the Aston Martin V6 should effectively be a modular replacement for the AMG V8, with Palmer confirming that it can be mated to existing transmissions.

Just as important, it will make at least as much power as the AMG engine in these applications.“As you move on, you normally expect a power increase, not a decrease,” Palmer said. “You’re supposed to do that even with a smaller power unit, so there’s no way our customers are going to expect to step backwards.”

Aston Martin confirmed the new engine would be its most powerful yet when used in the Valhalla but that it would also be detuned and reconfigured to suit a variety of needs.

The British company has a long history of making straight sixes but has never done a V6 before. However, Palmer insists it will be possible to make sure it delivers a brand-appropriate experience. “The key is sound,” he said. “Tuning the pipes to make it sound like an Aston.

“Obviously we can use the hybrid system and the electric motor to fill in on torque, so you can compensate for the cylinder size with the electrical assistance.

“As long as it feels like a V8 and sounds majestic, I think it’s a perfectly sensible way to go and a lot more sensible than a [four-cylinder] would be.”

The V6 will be made in the UK by an as-yet-unspecified supplier. Autocar has been told that it definitely won’t involve Ford’s soon-to-close engine plant in Bridgend, despite its proximity to the new Aston Martin factory in St Athan.

We have also learned from insiders that Aston Martin is planning to move production of its twin-turbocharged 5.2-litre V12 engine to the UK (it’s currently made at a Ford factory in Cologne, Germany), with the plan being to add an electrical element.

Aston Martin sold nearly 1800 V12-powered cars last year, and repatriating the powerplant to the UK shows a continued commitment to it.

“You can see in the longer term that it won’t last,” Palmer admitted, “but certainly over the next few years, we can continue to produce V12 engines, and we can make them more CO2-friendly.”

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While the UK government’s planned ban on the sale of all new petrol and diesel-fuelled cars – including hybrids – by 2035 will create big challenges, Palmer echoed McLaren boss Mike Flewitt by confirming his company won’t stop developing part-combustion cars for other markets if demand is still there.

“The key point is that we make cars for the world, and the world hasn’t said there isn’t a future for hybrids or plug-in hybrids,” said Palmer.

“If we were only selling to the UK it would be different, but we’re selling to a worldwide market where there’s a variety of views on future technology and how it will be deployed.”

We also asked Palmer about Aston Martin’s withdrawal from the planned hypercar class in the World Endurance Championship after previously indicating that it would join.

“They changed the rules, nothing more, nothing less,” he explained. “They allowed in IMSA vehicles. It was nothing to do with the state of the company, nothing to do with internal politics, nothing to do with anything other than that [Le Mans organiser] the ACO destroyed the business case.

“We were led to believe we were going to be racing hypercar against hypercar, but we didn’t anticipate there would be a lower-cost way of racing a year later. The whole case just fell to pieces.”

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16 April 2020

This has been known for some time that the V6 will eventually replace the Mercedes V8 in all of Aston's models.   You'll probably even find that the next replacement for the Ferrari F8 will also be a V6 hybrid.   It's the right way to go.

 

Interestingly, whilst they won't be using the soon to be closed Ford plant, if Ford were interested they could probably make more use of that engine and technology in their own cars!   Aston would be an ideal purchase for Ford again.   Much better than Stroll buying Aston quite frankly.

 

V12 coming back from the Ford plant is irrelevant quite honestly; doesn't matter where it's built, it's how it's built.   And Ford have the quality assurance processes to ensure that it's done right.   You don't build as many engines as Ford without that in place!

 

Shares tonight at 57p.   And they still haven't done what is necessary and sack Marek Reichman. They need to find a new designer to fix Aston's cars and put the business back on its feet again. Difficult times ahead globally, and Aston is holed below the waterline with his work.

 

16 April 2020
What a fabulous looking THING!!! Aston's designs and styling just get better and better. Now they're going to get in house turbo hybrid engines it's hard to imagine what more they could do to succeed. Surely a winning combination!!!

16 April 2020
So they are replacing a V8 with a hybrid V6 while swearing they won't use a 4-pot. I believe them. Not.
The snowball is rolling fast, they'll adapt to the times, but for now they don't want to scare their buyers away.

16 April 2020
Andrew1 wrote:

So they are replacing a V8 with a hybrid V6 while swearing they won't use a 4-pot. I believe them. Not. The snowball is rolling fast, they'll adapt to the times, but for now they don't want to scare their buyers away.

If they dont adopt smaller or massively more efficient engines they will find themselves fined out of existence, unfortunately thats the way the world is going.  

16 April 2020
So why are they moving V12 production from cologne? Has ford said they're going to cease production? They also haven't said where as fords Bridgend plant would be an obviously logical location for V12 production even though they have stated it won't be used for V6 hybrids. Using fords UK plant would maintain the quality assurance symanski refers to as well as be convenient to their St Athan factory with the, more important, added bonus of keeping the engine building expertise at work building engines instead of being made redundant.

16 April 2020
si73 wrote:

So why are they moving V12 production from cologne? Has ford said they're going to cease production? They also haven't said where as fords Bridgend plant would be an obviously logical location for V12 production even though they have stated it won't be used for V6 hybrids. Using fords UK plant would maintain the quality assurance symanski refers to as well as be convenient to their St Athan factory with the, more important, added bonus of keeping the engine building expertise at work building engines instead of being made redundant.

It could be chalked up to something of a "brexit bonus".  Based on volumes it would make no sense to continue to build engines within the EU even if cross channel movements are not hindered as much as feared.  The V12s are built in an Aston annexe in the Niehl plant, not in a massive Ford shed, so there won't be much lost in terms of scale economy or QC by leaving.  I suspect they'll go back to Cosworth / G&W Coscast, who are based in Worcester.

16 April 2020
Thanks, that makes sense.

16 April 2020

Much as old codgers like us love the burble of a good V8 and the like, we have to accept today's modern engines are extracting more power and torque from aa lot less capacity, the modern engine may not stir the emotions and we have accept that, ICE powered cars won't disappear overnight.

16 April 2020
Peter Cavellini wrote:

Much as old codgers like us love the burble of a good V8 and the like, we have to accept today's modern engines are extracting more power and torque from aa lot less capacity, the modern engine may not stir the emotions and we have accept that, ICE powered cars won't disappear overnight.

16 April 2020
Peter Cavellini wrote:

Much as old codgers like us love the burble of a good V8 and the like, we have to accept today's modern engines are extracting more power and torque from aa lot less capacity, the modern engine may not stir the emotions and we have accept that, ICE powered cars won't disappear overnight.

Obviously I am no expert, but could a smaller capacity V8 keep the sound we love, hybridised to keep the power and torque figures required and also provide lower emissions? Does it need less cylinders? Why can't it just be multi cylinder with lower capacity? Or maybe going for a V6/V4 with the same design cues as the V8s of Ferrari for a screamer or as an American or AMG for the thumping thunderous soundtrack? Flat plane and cross plane crankshaft?

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