Road safety minister wants more blanket 20mph limits in residential areas
16 December 2009

The government is encouraging more local councils to introduce blanket 20mph speed limits in residential areas without the use of speed humps.

At present councils can only enforce 20mph limits on groups of residential roads by using traffic calming measures such as speed humps. Only on individual roads can a 20mph limit be introduced without speed humps.

But following a successful city-wide trial of a blanket 20mph speed limit without speed humps in Portsmouth, road safety minister Paul Clark will allow more councils to introduce similar blanket 20mph speed limits in residential areas.

“We have seen that 20mph zones with traffic calming measures can make a real difference to the safety of local roads,” he said. “But we’ve also looked at the latest research and listened to councils and residents who want to introduce 20mph limits on a series of roads where physical traffic calming measures aren’t possible or practical.

“Allowing councils to put in place 20mph speed limits on more streets without speed humps or chicanes will mean that they can introduce them at a lower cost and with less inconvenience to local residents.”

Islington has recently introduced a 20mph speed limit in all of its residential areas, while similar schemes are set to be adopted in Norwich and York. The government is also proposing that average speed cameras be used in residential areas to enforce the limits.

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16 December 2009

I think this is the Governments way of saying 'Happy Christmas' to the motorist!

16 December 2009

I can understand 20 mile an hour limits around schools and hospitals etc, but where i live we have a 20 mph zone through the middle of the village, which means diddly squat, then the outlying 30 and 40 zones are ignored...

More over, this leads the way for 50 mph zones along rural A roads...

Just another waste of tax payers money and the Government ruining what little fun that can be had on a road, especially in the congested South East corner. What a bunch of complete and utter @$*@#!!

Just leave Darwinism to it, and realise that those who cannot cross roads safely will not enter the Gene Pool...

16 December 2009

If we as motorists werent so busy looking out for speed cameras, either fixed or remote, or for that matter free roaming Deer that we cannot kull anymore because of some pressure group, we wouldnt need further speed restrictions because we'd be watching the road...!!

16 December 2009

What a stupid idea. I know I'm probably preaching to the converted here but this type of enforced left-wing extremism has got to be stopped!

Why when such announcements are made by the Govt, do they not show us simple charts evidencing the amount of people who have died/seriously injured when a vehicle doing 20-30mph has been involved and at fault?!

As for the (environ)mentalist agenda, why aren't these bodies kicking and screaming about such a measure? I'm fairly certain is not disputed that sitting in second gear (which most cars will have to) burns more fuel which equals more C02!!

Why are there so many mentalists and luddites prominent in Govt and the Media these days that think the answer to our problems is a) to stop everyone from travelling and b) to p!ss everyone off by slowing people down to a crawl!

Why aren't Autocar and it's competitors putting their heads together for an intelluctual campaign to prove this just isn't necessary? Get the Govt and the charities with extremist agendas to LEAVE US ALONE.

Rant over, can someone now pass me the defibrillator.

The comments section needs a makeover... how about a forum??

16 December 2009

No one has the balls to stand up to the government - and certainly not autocar. I don't mind a 20mph speed limit outside schools etc - and speed humps are a killer to any type of car.

But 20mph outside a school at 12 midnight with a average speed camara - that is not the way to go!

16 December 2009

Idiots. Why don't we simply use a 3mph speed limit instaed, or the use of cars, buses, trucks, vans, etc. should just be prohibited. In that way the roads would be even safer.

PT

16 December 2009

Before every post ends up being the normal anti government ones, I would suggest anyone interested in this looks at the BBC 'A decade of deaths' articles today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8401344.stm

This is an excellent piece of work by the BBC, and although a little morbid in places (you can view the deaths local to where you live) it does go considerably further than the Autocar article.

There is no doubting the considerable reductions in fatalies and serious injuries in the last 10 years - due to many reasons, but speed is one of them. Whilst the Government doesn't always make the right decisions with everything car related, they do seem to be getting positive results with this.

Whether 20mph zones will make a further credible difference I am not sure, it would appear the out of town roads are the ones requiring the most attention.

16 December 2009

There's an election in a few months - we can show these morons what we think then...

Or, move to a less stupid country...

16 December 2009

Well we know where 'if it moves ban it' Labour stand. Any Tory or Lib politicians care to come on here and pledge to undo this madness? This would be a vote winner for me no matter how crack pot your other policies may be!

Just try it very next time you go out in your car drive a mile at 20mph (if your speedo even registers properly at this speed) and then tell me its not insanity.

16 December 2009

[quote stuart74]

Before every post ends up being the normal anti government ones, I would suggest anyone interested in this looks at the BBC 'A decade of deaths' articles today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8401344.stm

This is an excellent piece of work by the BBC, and although a little morbid in places (you can view the deaths local to where you live) it does go considerably further than the Autocar article.

There is no doubting the considerable reductions in fatalies and serious injuries in the last 10 years - due to many reasons, but speed is one of them. Whilst the Government doesn't always make the right decisions with everything car related, they do seem to be getting positive results with this.

Whether 20mph zones will make a further credible difference I am not sure, it would appear the out of town roads are the ones requiring the most attention.

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Firstly the highlighted part, has this government made ANY right decisions?? I think not.

Secondly .... the bullsh*t trotted out this morning to support 0mph speed limits was the death of young drivers. As these are the folk literally being killed literally every minute ..... I checked Gloucestershire. Yep, average age of death was 31-50 years old.

This is nothing to do with safety and everything to do with money raising as usual. Introduce limits that are simply too slow and then fine anything that moves. Do the government really think that by making motorists pay very little attention to their surroundings and instead being paranoid about speed cameras, the speed limit and so on will improve safety? Er no .... do lower limits and speed cameras stop drink driving? No .... drug driving ... no, unisured scummers in un road worthy death traps? No. I could go on but this government is corrupt and morally repugnant.

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