PSA Group CEO Carlos Tavares warns that battery production may become unsustainable
Jim Holder
12 April 2018

The switch from combustion engined to electrified powertrains will bring greater societal issues than the car industry alone can either consider or address, PSA Group CEO Carlos Tavares has warned.

Outlining his firm’s strategy to have half its cars electrified in some form by 2020, and to offer a fully electrified line up by 2025, Tavares highlighted his concerns that the pivot to electrification wasn’t being driven by a full understanding of the consequences.

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“What I wonder about is who is taking the 360 degree view?” said Tavares. “There is so much more to consider than selling electrified cars, from the battery creation to the battery recycling, from the rare metals being used to the extraction techniques to get them, to what it means for taxation, the total cost of ownership, the charging point infrastructure and more. If you want clean energy you need to ask how you produce that energy.

“From my perspective, the current strategy around this 360 degree view is lacking clarity. The car industry is moving quickly and strongly, but from cities to governments I am a little worried that the answer is that nobody has a cohesive approach. If they miss something then the whole strategy could backfire on us, not just as an industry but on citizens as a whole.”

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12 April 2018

but unfortunately when policy is directed by politicians and socialist anti car, anti business, anti personal transport views and lobbyists there is no chance of a 360 view. How long until we have batterygate? 

bol

12 April 2018

Any idea how you come across? 

12 April 2018

Everyone's rushing forward, determined to be seen to be doing something, but there's a risk that in the fullness of time we'll discover that many of the decisions taken were expensive, wrongheaded and wrong.

12 April 2018

I would be interested in hearing the full interview. Did he simply say electric cars are a problem and then head off without further comment or did he propose some solutions or even staying with fossil fuels forever? Without that kind of clarity we end up with simple-minded reactions like the comment above.

It's clear that raw materials and electricity generation are going to present challenges but unfortunately the public are unwilling and too easily manipulated by by charlatans into thinking that we can live in a consequence free world. NIMBYism and anti renewable dogma based on politics rather than science will restrict the deceldevelo of the infrastructure we need to develop the roads we need for the future.

The irony is that so called car enthusiasts and lovers of 'freedom' could end up being the biggest obstacles to continuing personal transport.

12 April 2018

And the streets of London will be buried under ten feet of horse dung....

 

Or we will invent other types of batteries.

12 April 2018

It's source, creation and use will always be a point of conversation whether it's diesel, petrol or electric. So there's nothing new there other than a few valid points, maybe he should look to see how Norway are coping. A mix of power sources will be the solution short term anyhow

What's he maybe trying to do is divert attention from why PSA are behind Tesla, Renault, Nissan, BMW, KIA and GM the EV development.  

typos1 - Just can’t respect opinion

12 April 2018
xxxx wrote:

It's source, creation and use will always be a point of conversation whether it's diesel, petrol or electric. So there's nothing new there other than a few valid points, maybe he should look to see how Norway are coping. A mix of power sources will be the solution short term anyhow

What's he maybe trying to do is divert attention from why PSA are behind Tesla, Renault, Nissan, BMW, KIA and GM the EV development.  

.   A solutions are short term, short of Atomic powered Cars which in itself is STILL a short term idea we have to just stumble from one solution to the next........

Peter Cavellini.

12 April 2018
Peter Cavellini wrote:

xxxx wrote:

It's source, creation and use will always be a point of conversation whether it's diesel, petrol or electric. So there's nothing new there other than a few valid points, maybe he should look to see how Norway are coping. A mix of power sources will be the solution short term anyhow

What's he maybe trying to do is divert attention from why PSA are behind Tesla, Renault, Nissan, BMW, KIA and GM the EV development.  

.   A solutions are short term, short of Atomic powered Cars which in itself is STILL a short term idea we have to just stumble from one solution to the next........

 "just stumble from one solutiont othe next", hardly stumbled. How short is short term for EV's then? 

typos1 - Just can’t respect opinion

12 April 2018

it's how it's stored. Batteries are extremely unkind to the environment, from the mining of required rare earths to recyclining of depleted units.....not sure that Norway have addressed that one yet.

Not only that but Norway's generating is 98% hydro from one dam and we don't have that capacity in the UK so.......wind is OK until the weather's still, solar's OK until the sun sets....nuclear's great until decommissioning comes around.....hydrogen would be OK if we could find a way to crack it using less power.....no easy solutions

12 April 2018
Andy1960 wrote:

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Not only that but Norway's generating is 98% hydro from one dam and we don't have that capacity in the UK so.......wind is OK until the weather's still, solar's OK until the sun sets....nuclear's great until decommissioning comes around.....hydrogen would be OK if we could find a way to crack it using less power.....no easy solutions

"98% hydro from one dam " that's rubbish for a start. 

 Wind and solar generate an ever increasing amount of power from around 0% 20 years agot to 15%+ and it's getting cheaper, then of electricity can be moved around from Norway to the UK and even Morocco (solar) to Europe. Then of course we already generate lots of power for day time use but little is used between 12:00pm and 06:00 outside when of course cars will be charged at 0.07p a kwh.

 Yes there's no easy solutions to fuelling cars and PSA are right to ask questions but at least others are getting things done. 

typos1 - Just can’t respect opinion

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