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Removal of original combustion engine threatens status of historically significant vehicles
Felix Page Autocar writer
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18 October 2019

A leading body has spoken out against the widespread electrification of classic cars, stating that removing a vehicle’s original powertrain renders it no longer ‘historic’. 

The Fédération Internationale des Véhicules Anciens (FIVA) has issued a statement, in which it states that it “cannot promote, to owners or regulators, the use of modern EV components to replace a historic vehicle’s drivetrain”. 

The announcement comes following a recent flurry of electrified classic vehicle unveilings from newly launched independent firms, including Lunaz and Swindon Powertrain, as well as a host of manufacturer-backed efforts such as Jaguar’s E-Type Zero, Volkswagen's new e-Kafer and the Renault 4 e-Plein Air

Silverstone-based Lunaz issued a response to the FIVA statement, saying "as an industry and as a collective, we must respond to a changing world," and that "offering an electric powertrain solution to those that desire it will ensure the cars we love remain a relevant and present proposition for many years to come.”

FIVA acknowledges the benefits of electrification in the classic vehicle sector, calling attention to likely enhanced performance and compliance with modern emissions legislation, but recommends that any modifications are reversible, so the vehicle can be returned to fully original specification. 

Removal of a historic vehicle’s combustion-fuelled powertrain does not, says the organisation, “comply with FIVA definition of a historic vehicle, nor does it support the goal of preserving historic vehicles and their related culture”.

It adds: “In FIVA’s view, vehicles so converted cease to be historic vehicles, unless they are subject only to ‘in period’ changes.” 

A historic vehicle is defined by FIVA as one that is at least 30 years old, preserved and maintained in a historically correct condition, not used as a means of daily transport and that is part of our technical and cultural heritage.

Tiddo Bresters, vice-president of FIVA’s legislation department, said: “It is not, in our opinion, the shape or bodystyle of a vehicle that makes it ‘historic’, but the way in which the entire vehicle has been constructed and manufactured in its original form.

“Hence if any owner, motor engineer or manufacturer chooses to make such conversions to a historic vehicle, FIVA would strongly recommend that any changes are reversible, with all the original components marked and safely stored. In this way, the vehicle may – if so desired in the future – be returned to its original state and may once again become a historic vehicle.”

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Real_sluggo 19 October 2019

rubbish

" A leading body has spoken out against the widespread electrification of classic cars stating that removing a vehicle's original powertrain renders it no longer 'historic' "

Ya've stated your opinion. Excellent. Pat on the back for ya. Bravo.

So why is this lot's musings suddenly news??  

 

 

Peter Cavellini 19 October 2019

Hardly!

 I don't think the Ev conversions are overnight going to wipe out the value of old iconic, vintage, or historical vehicles,after all, it's not as if someone is going to take the engine out of a Rolls Royce Silver ghost and stick a sacking great Battery in it are they?

ECC 19 October 2019

Electric classics are better in every way.

Electric Classic Cars Ltd has converted over 50 classics to electric over the past 3 years and can say from experience that electric classic cars have so many benefits. There's lower cost of ownership, not only because there's less maintenance but also electric is so much cheaper than fuel. Yes, when electrified they're often more powerful and can keep up with modern traffic but owners tend to find they enjoy the journey more as you can relax and not worry about breaking down or it running rough and needing a tune up. I was a fervent classic car petrol head having owned, restored and raced classic cars for the first 25 years of my driving life, but now I've gone (classic) electric I won't go back.

And for FIVA to say that the old engine should be stored carefully away somewhere in case it should ever be re-installed is a little like telling people they should store their old coal fire place in the garage when they install a nice modern central heating system, just in case coal comes back into fashion. 

289 19 October 2019

@ ECC

.....Oh please!, dont insult our intelligence.

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