McGuinness and Shedden talk cars and bikes on the Isle of Man
'Cars versus bikes’ is an argument we come back to at Autocar Towers time and again. We’ve done drag races, track battles, time trials - which you can watch below - but never got into the nitty-gritty details with two racers who’ve lived the subject matter all of their lives.
So do riders or drivers make bigger petrolheads? What happens when you get record-breaking Isle of Man TT rider John McGuinness and ex-BTCC touring car champion Gordon Shedden together? Do sparks fly? And what are the cars – and bikes – that have fuelled their ambitions and careers?
Read on to find out. And be warned: the metaphors chosen in some of these answers are totally unreconstructed, entirely as uttered – and have fairly adult themes.
What’s your earliest memory of a car or bike?
GS: I didn’t get into cars really until I was maybe 12, and I went to Knockhill to watch touring cars with my dad. There’s no family history with racing. It was just experiencing that race day live that really set the fire going in me.
JM: My dad did a bit of motor crossing when I was little. As soon as I was old enough to stand on my own two feet, he kicked me up the backside and told me to go and ride this little ItalJet mini moto around the industrial estate where we had our bike shop. I don't really remember the first ride. I was maybe three years old on stabilisers; four by the time they took ‘em off. I thought I was Evel Knievel.
What was the car or bike that gave you the bug for racing?
JM: Probably my Kawasaki KR1S. Mum and Dad got divorced when I was a teenager. Me and my brother both got something out of the deal, and I got the KR1S. I won a few club championships on that when I left school. I used to go to college on it and race it at weekends. But my big break came with Paul Bird in 1996.
GS: My first proper car was a Ford Fiesta XR2. But I’ve never owned a racing car. I used to rent them: arrive and drive at races. When I started in 1998, it used to cost about £700 a weekend for the Fiesta championship on the Touring Car circuit, and it was that which got me started in faster stuff.
What was the best racing car or bike you ever drove or rode?
GS: Cars move on so quickly. I’ve gone back and driven old cars and been amazed at how quickly they age. The BTCC Integra I drove in 2006 is the car that really sticks in my mind, though. It felt absolutely mint. You were going to race weekends and just feeling it and sending it straight away. Looking back, it felt like you always had it in the sweet spot.
JM: I started being really strong around the TT at a similar sort of time. I made a lot of progress on a Yamaha; proved I could win on the bigger bikes, I suppose. I had a mental block with the bigger stuff for a while.
But the ‘06 Honda Fireblade was the real masterpiece; the one I broke 130mph on. I used to walk towards it, and know it’d be just like the wife; I knew what it was going to do when it was underneath me, if you know what I mean!
It’s in my house; every time I walk from the front room to the kitchen I walk past it. But to be fair, that's what paid for the house, so…
Do you ride and drive on the road in your spare time?
GS: I’m absolutely not interested in driving – or riding – on the road. I just want to be like Little Miss Daisy! I don’t have fancy cars, I don’t collect road bikes or anything. I do the odd track day on my track bike; that gets the adrenaline going. But I guess that’s because I can have so much fun doing my job on a track.
When it’s late on a Sunday night at Brands Hatch, I just want to relax, jump in my automatic Honda CRV and drive home.
JM: I’ve got a bit of a flash motor; bought it in 2006 after I did the treble here (at the Isle of Man TT). It’s German and quick, and the engine’s in the back.
But I blew it up a few years ago. Me and Stuart Easton were driving it back from the Cardiff Speedway Grand Prix and it did a big end on the M5. I was driving it like a bit of a loony, and I ran it low on oil; something I’m not particularly proud of. It wasn’t very intelligent. But being in the industry, I thought: “I’m not going to pay for any oil if I can get it for free.” Then it started rattling, and I thought “Oh no, big mistake.”
But I’ve still got it, and I’ll probably keep it forever. It looks like a million dollars.
I had that McLaren for a bit on test drive, too: that “MP12-dash-forward-slash-your-wrists” car, whatever they call it. It was terrifying. I had it for a week, and I raced my superbike against it. To be honest, I’m glad they came and took it away, ‘cos I’d either have put it through a hedge or ended up in jail. I’m not the greatest driver in the world, but those things just suck you into believing you are.
What’s the best thing a car or bike has ever won for you beyond a trophy? Or the most it ever cost you?
GS: My first car almost got me thrown out of the house. Me and my dad went and bought an Austin Metro. We paid £900 for it or something like that. I’d just passed my test. We got half a mile from the guy’s house, and I’m mucking about with the stereo while my dad’s stopped in the road up ahead for a roundabout. I went straight into the back of him - literally within three minutes of buying it! I got out of the car and there’s my dad, banging his head against a lamppost…
JM: I’m very lucky that a bike’s never personally cost me much – besides a few injuries. I feel stupid for not buying that £10-worth of oil for the Porsche. That ended up costing a bit! My first car was a blue Honda Civic automatic, which I swapped for a caravan to put on the back of my van.
I’ve got a few bikes in the garage. When I buy a new bike, the wife doesn’t talk to me for a few days; it’s like having the television on with no sound! But she gets over it.
You can have one more race. Where is it, and what are you driving or riding?
JM: Here. On my Fireblade, in the ‘Senior’. This’ll be where I hang up my leathers.
GS: I’d go back to Bathurst in Australia and race V8 sports cars there.
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