Currently reading: UK government moves to tighten mobile phone driving laws
Government to close loophole that allows drivers to take photos as it seeks to make phone use fully illegal
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17 October 2020

The government has launched a consultation to tighten laws around using handheld mobile phones while driving so that it will be illegal in all circumstances.

While it's a criminal offence to make handheld calls or send texts while driving, there's currently no law against using mobiles in other ways, for example to play games.

This is because these acts, which include scrolling through music playlists and even taking photos or videos, aren't viewed as ‘interactive communication’ - the current definition of the offence.

Roads minister Baroness Charlotte Vere, who today announced the plans, said: “Our roads are some of the safest in the world, but we want to make sure they’re safer still by bringing the law into the 21st century."

The president of the AA, Edmund King, said: “There's no excuse for picking up a mobile phone when driving, so we're pleased this loophole will be closed.

“Phones do so much more than calls and texts, so it's only right that the law is changed to keep pace with technology. Tweets, TikTok and Instagram snaps can all wait until you park up.

“If you can’t resist the temptation to pick up your phone, then you should convert your glovebox into a phonebox.”

While drivers will no longer be allowed to use handheld phones, hands-free phones and other devices haven't been banned, so drivers can continue to make calls on loudspeaker and use hands-free sat-navs.

The government expects the new proposals to be in place by early 2021.

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17 October 2020

They should also ban the hand held microphone/speaker that taxi drivers (and police) use while moving. I worry when in a taxi. 

17 October 2020

 The powers that be have been trying for years to stop illegal phone use while driving a car,and to some extent the numbers caught have reduced, but, it still annoys me when I see a driver on the motorway doing 70-80 mph with a phone in the right hand, leaning on the door taking a call, if the really want to stop phone use in cars, then make cars with something that detects the car is moving and block the phone signal, takes the responsibility from the driver to not do it.

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17 October 2020

Totally agree Peter.

Movement sensor is the easy fix. No one is so important that the call cant wait and social media has no place in a driving environment.

The answer is really easy as all mobile phones have motion sensors built in.....not this ridiculous Government BS which fixes nothing. There are so few police on the road today that detection is near-on impossible.

18 October 2020
Peter Cavellini wrote:

 The powers that be have been trying for years to stop illegal phone use while driving a car,and to some extent the numbers caught have reduced, but, it still annoys me when I see a driver on the motorway doing 70-80 mph with a phone in the right hand, leaning on the door taking a call, if the really want to stop phone use in cars, then make cars with something that detects the car is moving and block the phone signal, takes the responsibility from the driver to not do it.

So to get this straight, you want something that blocks the phone signal when the vehicle is in motion, so does that mean users could no longer use android auto or apple car play to stream music or podcasts or satnav instructions, and obviously would it prevent passengers using a phone as well? 

Many modern satnavs have sim cards buitl in to give live traffic updates, would the technology block thos as well, what about modent vehicles with built it sims for apps etc, would they also be blocked when the vehicle is in motion..

Just think for a moment, yes the technology exists, but how do you prevent it from affecting other systems or passengers..

All new cars by law have to have an SOS system that alerts the authorites in the event of an accident, something VW are currently struggling to implement with the mk8 Golf, what happens if this system accidentally interferes with the SOS system and it fails to contact the authorities, who is responsible for any potential loss off life? 

You havent really thought it through have you.. 

 

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18 October 2020

I think the answer is yes Citytiger.

Passengers could try something new like ....having a conversation for a change rather than peering at some social media/whatsapp BS. Listen to the radio...look at the scenery, read a book. The options are endless, and worked just fine before all this crap and unecessary crap. 

No one actually needa amdroid auto, or Apple Car play .....I manage perfectly well without ever having considered its use. Most cars have sat nav as standard anyway.

Probably there should be a standardisation of Waze or Google maps on all cars built in systems...One thing for sure social media, texting etc has NO place in vehicles, and if the passenger doesnt like it there is always public transport!

It is not acceptable for even one more person to die because the driver behind feels the need to fiddle with his/her phone.

Thats the point!

18 October 2020
I don't have a car with standard satnav, my wife's Mii has a Garmin touch screen device which plugs into the car, this is also a Bluetooth device but is still touchscreen operation to activate voice call. I totally agree with your sentiments but citytiger has a point. Anything that disables a phone will affect passengers and could run the risk of affecting traffic and sos functions. Android auto is probably great, for those that have it, for others like myself, I pre program Google maps on my phone and it gets stuck to the dash of my na eunos, I've never needed to text or social media on the move (or social media in general) but have made calls by pressing a button on the stereo.

This law finally enables prosecution of those who would use the not in a call loop hole. Which is a good thing, it just needs more traffic police to enforce it. But the same can be said of speeding and dangerous driving, camera reliance is inadequate and only used for revenue.

17 October 2020
You missed the point.

17 October 2020

 The point is, there are still people out there driving there cars just like they always have, phone in hand, and as has been mentioned most cars have built in systems now, so, there's no real need to have the phone in your hand while driving, fines and bans don't seem to put of many drivers, maybe in a phobia?, can't not not use there mobile constantly that makes them do this, no, I'll stick to what I said before, if they want to really stop it, start making the mobile phone companies at a chip that stops you making a call on the move, but, receive calls that can only be answered when stationary, this may sound draconian to some, but it might cut down phone use while driving.

17 October 2020
So yesterday I caught glimpse of a driver in a 19 plate Golf R, driving and talking on their phone.

The car has a perfectly good infortaintment with Bluetooth , voice control and possibley Android Auto/Apple car play..but the basics of Bluetooth are there as standard.

Why would you choose not to use it ?

Baffles me

17 October 2020
A Golf R. Likely to be a drug dealer, so multiple phones not all connected to the BT

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