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Chemical giant's Defender replica would have its sights set on African and US markets; feasibility study to be finished in December
Sam Sheehan
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19 July 2016

An Ineos built replica of the Land Rover Defender would most likely retain a diesel powertrain in order to be reliable and tough enough for customers in Sub-Saharan Africa.

The model, which would be be built and badged as an all-new car, but bear strong resemblance in both look and character to the Defender, is currently being considered for production by chemical giant Ineos.

The firm is due to carry out a feasibility study to see if the model is econonically viable for production this year, with the results due in December. If the results are positive, Ineos's director has told Autocar the model is likely to feature a powertrain and underpinnings borrowed from another automotive brand.

"Fundamentally we're not in the industry so we'd want to partner with an experienced brand," explained Tom Crotty. "We think there is an ongoing market for the vehicle if you can make it reliable and conform to [safety and emissions] regulations. We've done a lot of stuff in Africa and they love [the Defender] out there, but they don't love its reliability."

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Crotty suggested that sticking with a proven powertrain would be most appropriate, given that it would have to be reliable in extreme climates and conditions. "[An] electric [drivetrain] is too advanced - this car needs to work to work in Sub-Saharan desert," he added, before confirming that the old Defender's Ford Transit-derived diesel engine would definitely not be used.

Crotty cited the US and Africa as key markets to be considered for the new model, adding that the US was a largely untapped market for the original Defender. "It's the world's biggest buyer of SUVs and a market of more than 300 million people," he said.

Ineos wants to retain the character of the original Defender, but admits a new model would be "significantly upgraded" in order pass increasingly stringent safety and emissions tests.

"Some of the development would include ground-up design, and some of it would be smaller manufacturing detail changes," explained Crotty. "We’re used to managing enormously high reliability with our machines [in the chemical and energy industries]. The Toyota Land Cruiser will be a benchmark for reliability."

Will it make production?

Ineos first revealed its intention to build a reborn Defender to the press earlier this month. The company, headed by billionaire Jim Ratcliffe, revealed it had held talks with Jaguar Land Rover about the possibility of putting the Defender back into production, but the car maker has repeatedly dismissed the idea.

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“There is no way this is happening,” a JLR spokesman said. “We’re not going to let anyone build our Defender.” 

Despite JLR’s stance, Ratcliffe said in an official statement just days later that he was a great admirer of the Defender and is determined to bring it back in some form. “I think the Defender can be upgraded to be the world’s best and most rugged off-roader,” he said.

Ratcliffe added that there would be few copyright issues to overcome due to the Defender’s age.

New northern production plant

Ineos says it will make a final decision regarding the model once the results of its feasibility study are compiled at the end of this year.

If plans go ahead, Ratcliffe wants to build a £250 million plant in the north of England capable of producing up to 20,000 vehicles a year.

When asked about the Ineos model's pricing, Crotty said he expected it to be similar to that of the original Defender, which started at about £20,000. "You want to be in the [price] bracket that the Defender finished at otherwise you’re going to be way out of the market," he explained. "Africa is a very important market, so is the agricultural market, and the US, too. All of these things set your price point."

Crotty suggested that it could take two to three years to get the project moving once the study is complete.

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Builder farmer 13 February 2017

Ineos "defender"

Jaguar Landrover have forgotten all about Builders and Farmers. Can we have something with the option for PTO like the series Landrovers and simple removable bench seats. Possibly a un-pluggable removable dash display too, with no fancy upholstery so the inside of the cab can be power washed. You only have to look inside modern 4x4s to know their designers did not have ewe and lamb passengers in mind.
trickii 20 July 2016

Defender

It is clear that LR would like to continue with this model just as Mercedes G Wagon in the life style and military markets.This is a unique vehicle thought to be able to a total market segment of 50000 units per year.the vehicle body needs re engineering to increase utility,safety, and ease of manufacture. the present power unit could be updated to a modern Jaguar engine but at a cost.

Parts have been distributed via JCB in the third world with back ward compatibility. The engine needs low end performance and parts availability at a reasonable price point.The seduction is to use the Toyota or infinity power diesel engine ranges.Pure enthusiasts point out that this will effect performance.

Conclusion is that this mass customization vehicle can be re bodied with minimal expertise and the engine updated.Jaguar seems to think re certification would be expensive for the low amount of sales without military contracts available.However this barrier would not be problematic in Africa but maybe in the states.There is a new defender design in the evaluation process but jaguar land rover may opt for a redesign and postponement of the new defender as the market develops.

Will86 20 July 2016

Is there really demand?

I thought most people in Sub-Saharan Africa drove Japanese pickups.