Euro 5-rated diesels reportedly could have illegal software; PSA denies allegations
Sam Sheehan
8 September 2017

The PSA Group, parent company of Peugeot, Citroën and DS, has been accused of using illegal emissions cheat software in Euro 5-spec diesel vehicles.

According to reports in French newspaper Le Monde, “at least" 1,914,965 diesel vehicles could be affected by the software.

If true, PSA could be subject to fines totalling about €5 billion. It would embroil PSA in a diesel emissions scandal that first came to light in 2015 with Volkswagen's Dieselgate case.

The claims against PSA are published in a report from the European Union’s directorate-general for competition, consumer affairs and fraud prevention. PSA said it had not previously had access to the report and so was unable to respond to the specific claims.

"[PSA] complies with regulations in every country where it operates and its vehicles have never been equipped with software or systems making it possible to detect compliance tests and to activate a pollutant treatment device that would be inactive during customer use," the company said in an official statement.

"[PSA] is the only car manufacturer in the world to have put in place a total transparency approach regarding the consumption and CO2 emissions of its models in real use conditions. This approach will be extended to nitrogen oxide emissions by the end of 2017. The results of the 400 measures covering 60 models (80% of European sales) are available on the brands’ websites."

PSA has now reserved the right to file a complaint for breach of confidentiality.

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8 September 2017

...will this affect Ford as well?

They share a number of diesel engine designs with PSA.

Steam cars are due a revival.

8 September 2017

But as they say "There's no smoke without fire" or in this case 'diesel'

 

Hydrogen cars just went POP

8 September 2017

I don't get the bit about fines - I may have missed it, but so far as I was aware, there have been no fines to VAG in the EU, only the US. And PSA don't sell cars in the US. Not sure I see this going very far.

8 September 2017
m_bowl wrote:

I don't get the bit about fines - I may have missed it, but so far as I was aware, there have been no fines to VAG in the EU, only the US. And PSA don't sell cars in the US. Not sure I see this going very far.

 

But are the Jaguar / Land Rover diesels sold in the USA not rebadged V6 HDis?

Could still land PSA, GM or Tata in hot water

8 September 2017

PSA led the design of some engines, Ford/JLR the others so it realy depends on which engines are the ones implicated.

 

8 September 2017

PSA have been adamant that they have not used cheat software that detects emission testing, of the type that lead to VW groups problems. I'm sure PSA would not have been so vocal on this if they knew that, actually, they did use cheat software. So is this story accurate? Or is it miud-slinging from a European rival (guess who!)?

8 September 2017
Like I said in the Jaguar XF review. VAG were the first to be sacrificed, PSA will not be the last. Where's jimbbw or whatever he calls himself? Probably has his dick stuck up his Mondeos exhaust pipe.

9 September 2017

I am sure certain regular posters will make a case for VW making PSA do it. If VW are achieving excellent pollution figures, the others had to cheat too! It is therefore VWs fault and they should pay the fine for everyone else. Oh and their cars are boring blah blah blah!

it probably stands to reason that the stretchingly difficult emissions tests might have been a step too far for everyone if the Germans had to resort to a cheat device. I am sure I read somewhere that Germans have a reputation for engineering excellence. Or did I not get that right? If they struggled, others must have too.

I can't imagine this is the last of it.

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