The Department for Transport is trialling a new system to monitor excessively loud vehicles

The Department for Transport is trialling a new camera system that targets vehicles that are breaking legal noise limits.

The Government has commissioned a prototype ‘noise camera’, which will be installed at several locations over the next seven months. It measures the sound levels of passing vehicles and then uses automated number plate recognition to identify offenders.

The clampdown has been launched because the Department for Transport believes that “illegal, excessively noisy vehicles” can make life a “misery” for those living close by, especially in rural communities, and have “very serious health impacts”.

The Government hasn't changed the legal noise limits for vehicles, but the DfT says that current enforcement is mainly reactive and relies on subjective judgement. It says that the measurement system “will determine whether the legal noise limit has been breached by taking into account the class and speed of the vehicle relative to the location of the noise camera.”

Transport secretary Chris Grayling said: “The trial isn't intended to target law-abiding drivers but those who are flouting laws around noise. All vehicles must legally meet strict noise limits before they are allowed on the road.

“Once a vehicle is in service, exhausts and silencers must by law be maintained in good working order and not altered to increase noise.”

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10 June 2019

 And I can see that being Policed fairly!, oh! Of courses, it’ll be a Letter through the post!?, really!, what next, inappropriate clothing while driving a Cabriolet...?

Peter Cavellini.

10 June 2019

.. this is already covered under Outraging Public Decency (OPD) under which terms of the infraction are actually quite broad. 

10 June 2019

Good, about time.

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10 June 2019

If this is an issue this should be covered in the MOT as per all other hardware tests including emissions. This way a cars exhaust systems health can be assessed and the noise can be measured for little cost. The exhaust system is already examined under these rules for emission tampering. This is more constructive as the owner would know if the exhaust is above noise limits due to damage or due to an aftermarket system. How does an owner know how loud their car is?! this way the owner would get the results as per emissions. A car fails it's MOT on this then it cant go on the road. If a car gets fined for being loud, there is nothing to stop the same person driving around, the on road meters can't be everywhere!

Roadside cameras will not take into account classic cars that may predate the noise limit regulations, or cars approved under low volume conditions. For some cars, replacement exhausts aren't available (Avantime for example) so custom exhausts are the only option. Without a carbon copy of the silencer volumes or resolators (and matting etc.) it would not be possible to replicate the exhaust sound attenuation of the original system. So this may start making cars that are already to keep on the road even harder!!! 

 

 

10 June 2019
SCHNICK18 wrote:

If this is an issue this should be covered in the MOT as per all other hardware tests including emissions. This way a cars exhaust systems health can be assessed and the noise can be measured for little cost. The exhaust system is already examined under these rules for emission tampering. This is more constructive as the owner would know if the exhaust is above noise limits due to damage or due to an aftermarket system. How does an owner know how loud their car is?! this way the owner would get the results as per emissions. A car fails it's MOT on this then it cant go on the road. If a car gets fined for being loud, there is nothing to stop the same person driving around, the on road meters can't be everywhere!

Roadside cameras will not take into account classic cars that may predate the noise limit regulations, or cars approved under low volume conditions. For some cars, replacement exhausts aren't available (Avantime for example) so custom exhausts are the only option. Without a carbon copy of the silencer volumes or resolators (and matting etc.) it would not be possible to replicate the exhaust sound attenuation of the original system. So this may start making cars that are already to keep on the road even harder!!! 

 

 

 

It might catch the very few people whose exhaust system has a genuine problem, and an annual MOT is only valid on the day as an exhaust inspection and the lawbreakers just stop the exhaust over after the MOT.   

The way larger problem is ballheads who fit a stupidly noisy exhaust to their car or bike just to make more noise. Lovely, I like the noise on a race track, but not next to my house please as I try to sleep or concentrate on something.

As for those people who fit a wastgate type valve on non turbo cars, absolute bellends, and usually breath through their mouths. I like real noises, not contrived fake ones. 

I will admit I had a twin cylinder Ducati a few years back that was magnificently noisy, but I also burbled along past houses  

10 June 2019

Quite simple really, there is legislation in place that ensures cars meet certain noise standards if you fit a deliberately loud aftermarket exhaust then you get what is coming to you. Similarly spinning your wheels deliberately or revving your engine to generate noise is already covered by existing legislation. Just look on youtube at the Kensington supercars being pulled over by the poice for intentionally revving their engines to create disturbing noise. Any petrolhead that thinks that self entitlement to do what you want where you want is the way foward just deluded. If you break the law ... you are breaking the law !

10 June 2019

Far too easy to get around in the MOT test (same as illegally spaced number plates) so I'm all in favour of tackling this scourge.  Unneccesarily loud pipes, whether on cars or bikes, are a horribly selfish indulgence.

10 June 2019

I think it's great that something could be done about the selfish, inconsiderate individuals flying around in / on loud vehicles and disturbing everyone (I've always been a petrol head myself, but there are limits). 

But I don't see how an automated camera setup is going to be able to police this properly.

What if two motorbikes pass a camera at the same time and only one of them is making the loud racket - who gets the fine? Both of them? 

Or a quiet car passes a camera when another car, out of camera view, suddenly emits a huge noise thus triggering a picture to be taken of the quiet car?

This just sounds like yet another badly thought out / politically driven scheme that will be counting the money it generates before even considering the innocent people it will prosecute (as is always the case with this kind of automated technology-based law enforcement).

Also, like a lot of cars using false numberplates these days (the false plates being used from a similar car so not immediately recognisable as breaking the law from a police car scanning them), I've also spotted motorcycles with either tiny numberplates or they are intentionally covered by a bag or item of clothing. Assuming these are not getting pulled up, they will be avoiding prosecution by this system too.

All that said, I'm still in favour of catching and severely fining the lovely person who flies up our road on a scrambler every Sunday around 8am, the 'fast and furious' wannabes with their ridiculous "music" blaring out, and some motorcyclists thinking the nearby dual carriageway is an extension of the TT races.

 

Everyone has a right to an opinion - don't confuse that with insulting your mother :-)

10 June 2019

How sensitive will these cameras be?

Assuming your exhaust breaks - Can one drive to an exhaust repair centre without incurring a fine?

Or are you going to have to pay it, then take your receipt to a cop shop - in order to then wait 9 months while the DVLA process it?

10 June 2019

This reminds me of idiots who build houses next to a race track then complain when they find that the track is noisy and force strict noise limits.

The baby boomers have had their fun with loud large displacement cars and now they're all miserable old gits they're keen on making it impossible to have fun with a car. 

Can't wait to smash my horn in all neighbourhoods with these cameras. You had cool engine sounds beore? Now you have car horn. 

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