CEO Elon Musk says package caused confusion after Euro NCAP test showed it could be misleading
19 October 2018

Tesla has removed ‘Full Self-Driving Capability’ from its options list in order to reduce “confusion”, after testing revealed the software’s marketing can be misleading. 

Euro NCAP and Thatcham Research yesterday revealed their first testing results of driver assist functions, including lane keep assist and autonomous braking. Their conclusion when testing Tesla’s ‘Autopilot’ function on a Model S was that the name “implied a fully automated system where the driver is not required”. 

“However, the limited scenarios tested clearly indicate that is not the case, nor is such a system legally allowed,” the study continued. “Overall, the Tesla system is primarily in control with a risk of the driver becoming over-reliant.”

The day after the results were released, Tesla’s website no longer features Full Self-Driving Capability as an option, with only the Enhanced Autopilot function available. It's not yet clear if the two are linked, but the timing seems more than coincidental. 

The US EV maker was intending to release the software to vehicles fitted with the option once it had been validated and regulatory approval had been granted, but that hasn’t happened since the option first featured in 2016. Tesla still intends to roll out an increasing level of automation once validation has been completed. 

Currently, Enhanced Autopilot claims to be able to keep within a lane, automatically change lanes without input, enter or exit a motorway by itself, self-park when near a parking spot and be summoned to and from a garage.

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19 October 2018

  Just covering there rears ?, yes, along with others, but really, who is thinking there are self driving Cars out there right now?, do they not read up before they buy?, can’t think Garages are saying..yes, yes, er yes it drives itself?!, beginning to think there are a few folk out there whose Brain isn’t quite connected?!

20 October 2018
Peter Cavellini wrote:

...but really, who is thinking there are self driving Cars out there right now?, do they not read up before they buy?,

If they did read up, they'd see "self-driving car" hence the reason Tesla had to change their wording.

21 October 2018
Peter Cavellini wrote:

  Just covering there rears ?, yes, along with others, but really, who is thinking there are self driving Cars out there right now?, do they not read up before they buy?, can’t think Garages are saying..yes, yes, er yes it drives itself?!, beginning to think there are a few folk out there whose Brain isn’t quite connected?!

Well lets be totally honest, I think it was last year, BMW commisioned a survey, and it came back showing that a large percentage of driver/owners didnt know the 1 series was RWD, however, I suspect, if you had asked the same people the spec of the latest iphone, they would be be able to spout it word for word. 

19 October 2018
A little bird (definitely not Autocar) told me that Tesla has out sold Jaguar this year and is set to outsell Porsche by the year end. If true? Quite sensational and news worthy. Don't you thin?

19 October 2018
fadyady wrote:

A little bird (definitely not Autocar) told me that Tesla has out sold Jaguar this year and is set to outsell Porsche by the year end. If true? Quite sensational and news worthy. Don't you thin?

 

What kind of BS is that?! Porche sold until August 52434 cars while Tesla had only sold 15987! Do you just come up with random thoughts on your head and spew them around here to see if they stick?! AFAIK Porsche does not sell any new car for 40K ish so Tesla should be smacking them, but they are not.

 

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/porsche/

FMS

19 October 2018
Ubberfrancis44 wrote:

fadyady wrote:

A little bird (definitely not Autocar) told me that Tesla has out sold Jaguar this year and is set to outsell Porsche by the year end. If true? Quite sensational and news worthy. Don't you thin?

 

What kind of BS is that?! Porche sold until August 52434 cars while Tesla had only sold 15987! Do you just come up with random thoughts on your head and spew them around here to see if they stick?! AFAIK Porsche does not sell any new car for 40K ish so Tesla should be smacking them, but they are not.

 

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/porsche/

 

Seems you are also afflicted by the spewing of the BS bug...comparing Porsche sales to Tesla sales is no more relevant than comparing Subaru sales to that of Bentley. Different customer base, different drive trains, different body styles, different running costs, different company car tax bands...getting the picture now?.

20 October 2018
FMS wrote:

Ubberfrancis44 wrote:

fadyady wrote:

A little bird (definitely not Autocar) told me that Tesla has out sold Jaguar this year and is set to outsell Porsche by the year end. If true? Quite sensational and news worthy. Don't you thin?

 

What kind of BS is that?! Porche sold until August 52434 cars while Tesla had only sold 15987! Do you just come up with random thoughts on your head and spew them around here to see if they stick?! AFAIK Porsche does not sell any new car for 40K ish so Tesla should be smacking them, but they are not.

 

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/porsche/

 

Seems you are also afflicted by the spewing of the BS bug...comparing Porsche sales to Tesla sales is no more relevant than comparing Subaru sales to that of Bentley. Different customer base, different drive trains, different body styles, different running costs, different company car tax bands...getting the picture now?.

Consider Porche's and Tezlas cost similar money - thus logically clientele are similarly well healed. It's quite probable people that might have considered buying Porce's may have moved over to Tezla. Why would that be improbable?

Porche may now be nervous about such moves, hence it's about to introduce a Tezla competitor, logical if it's seen as a defensive move, meaning Tezla has been robbing customers, meaning the two firms are actually in not that dissimilar markets. 

20 October 2018
Ubberfrancis44 wrote:

fadyady wrote:

A little bird (definitely not Autocar) told me that Tesla has out sold Jaguar this year and is set to outsell Porsche by the year end. If true? Quite sensational and news worthy. Don't you thin?

 

What kind of BS is that?! Porche sold until August 52434 cars while Tesla had only sold 15987! Do you just come up with random thoughts on your head and spew them around here to see if they stick?! AFAIK Porsche does not sell any new car for 40K ish so Tesla should be smacking them, but they are not.

 

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/porsche/

Why the attitude ? fadyady clearly states that it wasnt Autocar that told him the figures and says "if true" they would be newsworthy. Its clear from his post that his is not saying that these figures are fact, just saying that he has heard it said.

20 October 2018
fadyady wrote:

A little bird (definitely not Autocar) told me that Tesla has out sold Jaguar this year and is set to outsell Porsche by the year end. If true? Quite sensational and news worthy. Don't you thin?

Your little bird  doesn't say if it's UK only, Europe, Global or whatever.

People can make stats read whatever they want them to read - it's called politics.

19 October 2018

And those are only US numbers (Tesla's main market), because also its pretty difficult to get a model 3 elsewhere.

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