Fiat Chrysler Automobiles CEO Sergio Marchionne has voiced his thoughts on the future of diesel
Jim Holder
11 April 2018

Diesel sales may never recover, even if technical advances make it a more environmentally friendly fuel than alternatives, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCA) CEO Sergio Marchionne believes.

“The disengagement is happening. Since Dieselgate, the share of diesel sales has reduced month by month,” said Marchionne. “There’s no point denying that, and it's clear that the cost of making diesel reach the new standards is going to become prohibitive.”

The FCA Group is set to unveil its next five-year plan to investors on 1 June, and Marchionne has already said that the firm will end sales of diesel models for its Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Jeep and Maserati brands by 2022, reasoning that electrified technology will deliver better returns than investing in a new generation of diesel engines.

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“We have to lessen our reliance on diesel substantially," he said. "Whatever the arguments on each side, the markets have turned against diesel and almost killed it.

“I'm not sure we have the strength as the FCA Group or as an industry to turn it around.”

At the height of the Dieselgate scandal, authorities accused a diesel engine in the Fiat 500X of using a cheat device – a claim that the crossover's maker vigorously denied.

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11 April 2018

Kill off dirty diesel for good?

Steam cars are due a revival.

11 April 2018

Fiat were a pioneer of Diesel engines in the late 90’s with the first common rail diesel for a passenger car the 1.9jtd. 

They also won small Diesel engine of the year with the 1.3jtd many years ago.

However, Fiat have just let Diesel engines languish investing little in any updates or new engines. 

The 1.9jtd turned into the 2.0 and later into the 2.2 with a few updates along the way.

The 1.3 enlarged to become the 1.6 with little work done in noise. 

The 1.3 was used in lots of other manufactures cars, however has been dropped by them I suppose with a loss of income to Fiat for them. 

Shame really they kind of just gave up much like the Fiat car range 

11 April 2018
Jimbbobw1977 wrote:

The 1.3 enlarged to become the 1.6 with little work done in noise

No, the 1.6 is a downsized 1.9/2.0 (family B), not an enlarged 1.3

11 April 2018

Yes, Fiat might feel slightly more precious about diesel if they still owned their common rail technology rather than having flogged it off to Bosch to keep the lights on.


11 April 2018
bomb wrote:

Yes, Fiat might feel slightly more precious about diesel if they still owned their common rail technology rather than having flogged it off to Bosch to keep the lights on.

Yes, they sold the commonrail patent because they thought Diesel would remain at 10-15% of the market, whereas the benefits of commonrail pushed it beyond 50%.
Electrification is only part of the answer and only in dense traffic. On long journeys Diesel still has the advantage and Diesel PHEV is also a possibility.
Finally, it is easier to clean up diesel's NOx and particulate emissions than it is to drive down petrol's CO2 emissions.

12 April 2018

[/quote] Finally, it is easier to clean up diesel's NOx and particulate emissions than it is to drive down petrol's CO2 emissions.[/quote]

Is it? Petrol co2 emissions have been tumbling and are a lot closer than they ever were to those of diesel emissions, add hybridization and they are even closer, I can't see why you think it is easier to clean up diesel rather than petrol, surely there is still a market for both to be cleaner as we are still quite a long way off full electric suiting everyone's needs.

12 April 2018
giulivo wrote:
bomb wrote:

Yes, Fiat might feel slightly more precious about diesel if they still owned their common rail technology rather than having flogged it off to Bosch to keep the lights on.

Yes, they sold the commonrail patent because they thought Diesel would remain at 10-15% of the market, whereas the benefits of commonrail pushed it beyond 50%.
Electrification is only part of the answer and only in dense traffic. On long journeys Diesel still has the advantage and Diesel PHEV is also a possibility.
Finally, it is easier to clean up diesel's NOx and particulate emissions than it is to drive down petrol's CO2 emissions.

"drive down petrol's CO2 emissions." A perceptive comment utterly lost on the mass market layman/women. Idiots on here spouting dirty diesel comments have no idea. Ask any Knowledgable engineer who understands the complex nature of engine emissions and they will tell you how misinformed the man/women on the street is. Petrol cannot compete with diesel for efficiency this means more co2....this means more global warming and the subsequent consequences. Design and develop diesel and petrol correctly....modern engines are incredibly clean compared to engines made just 10 yrs ago. Electric needs to be developed and needs time. Target heavy industry....the airline industry and maritime.

11 April 2018
Did not think I could be saying that in response to something that Sergio Marchionne said. But there you go. The sooner this farce ends the better. Would love to hear something to this effect from the world's largest group of polluters by a wide margin.

11 April 2018

The end of diesel that is. Suzuki is dropping all diesels which is not very significant as the company is a relatively small player. Fiat is huge and a European manufacturer. I have always thought it would take a European car maker to decide to ditch diesel or at least stop development of the filthy things to signal the end of diesel as s fuel for cars. I suspect that the Fiat CEO is not the only CEO planning to ditch diesel. Volvo have pledged to do so but still push customers into D4 and D5 XC models so I do not really trusting them just yet. BMW seem to be accelerating the i range with the i5 coming soon (then again aren’t all European electric cars “coming soon”?). Only VAG and Mercedes-Benz are clinging to the idea of “future diesel”. They have to do so because their electric car development programs are years behind BMW, all Japanese car makers, all South Korean car makers and very likely all Chinese car makers too. Shameful really as they both thought they could lie and cheat to sell filthy dangerous diesels. 

11 April 2018

They are bigger than both Daimler and BMW - dont forget they are huge in the Asia.

Steam cars are due a revival.

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