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23 April 2019

Tesla CEO Elon Musk yesterday laid out another series of ambitious targets while hosting a Tesla Autonomy Investor Day. 

These included more details of a plan to profitability for the American electric vehicle (EV) maker during a period of additional financial turmoil. There is concern within Wall Street that demand for Teslas has slowed after an initial global rush this year, while short-term problems such as arranging successful deliveries globally has proved to be a sticking point.

Musk forecasted that the company will become “extremely cashflow-positive” once it has established a network of “autonomous robotaxis”, beginning next year. He admitted that Tesla “won’t have regulatory approval everywhere” to run such a network but said he was “confident we will have at least regulatory approval somewhere, literally next year”.

Acknowledging criticism of Tesla sometimes failing to deliver on its promises, Musk said: “All these things, I said we’d do them. We did it. We’re going to do the robotaxi things too. The only criticism – it’s a fair one – sometimes they’re not on time”. 

The reference may be to Musk’s frequent optimism for the advent of full autonomy, which appears to have been pushed back. Last month, Tesla started shipping cars that are said to be capable of fully autonomous driving, thanks to new hardware designed in-house. 

By the end of 2019, Tesla will reportedly have a wireless software update for that system ready, with a target to ensure the system is “safe” by the middle of 2020. Musk promised analysts back in January that the Full Self-Driving system would be granted for permission towards the end of this year. He added yesterday: "probably two years from now, we will make a car with no steering wheel or pedals".

If regulators can be successfully convinced of the system’s safety, permission to launch an autonomous taxi service could be granted for the end of 2020.

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The taxi fleet will be largely made up of customers cars, with Tesla aiming to rent them out to users of a ride-hailing smartphone app. However, it’s expected that a number of new models will need to be brought in if the platform increases in scale during that time.

During yesterday's event, Musk also said that Tesla plans in the near future to allow an “aggressive mode” for the Autopilot system that will introduce a “slight chance of a fender bender”, claiming this is "the only way to navigate Los Angeles traffic". 

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23 April 2019

Put it on the back burner until a prototype can drive itself from East to West London via the elephant and castle with no more than 3 crashes.

Until then lauch a Model 3 in Europe without ANY autonomous BS for £4,000 less and let the buyer decide!

23 April 2019

 This is a bit of a stretch, he may be a genius (?) but , Cars with no pedals or wheel to steer?, I’d like to be proved wrong but.....

23 April 2019
Peter Cavellini wrote:

 This is a bit of a stretch, he may be a genius (?) but , Cars with no pedals or wheel to steer?, I’d like to be proved wrong but.....

Not a genius at all, he didn't even start Tesla, he retrospectively got that title after bringing in a load of funding with him.

The guy's a master at PR - the same as Thomas Eddison. Not really inventing all that much but spouting ideas.

As for robotaxis by next year - they could certainly put them out there.

Safely? Not a chance.

Another example of Tesla using their customers and the general public as beta testers - only with robotaxis, there's a substantial additional chance of tragedy.

23 April 2019
CarNut170 wrote:

Peter Cavellini wrote:

 This is a bit of a stretch, he may be a genius (?) but , Cars with no pedals or wheel to steer?, I’d like to be proved wrong but.....

Not a genius at all, he didn't even start Tesla, he retrospectively got that title after bringing in a load of funding with him.

The guy's a master at PR - the same as Thomas Eddison. Not really inventing all that much but spouting ideas.

As for robotaxis by next year - they could certainly put them out there.

Safely? Not a chance.

Another example of Tesla using their customers and the general public as beta testers - only with robotaxis, there's a substantial additional chance of tragedy.

fairly clever then. He did however join less than 1 year after it's inception and a full 4 years before the first car was made.

Bit like Steve Jobs and Apple, the first Aplle computer was made before Steve Jobs had even seen it yet most people probably think he invented the Apple I.

23 April 2019
xxxx wrote:

CarNut170 wrote:

Peter Cavellini wrote:

 This is a bit of a stretch, he may be a genius (?) but , Cars with no pedals or wheel to steer?, I’d like to be proved wrong but.....

Not a genius at all, he didn't even start Tesla, he retrospectively got that title after bringing in a load of funding with him.

The guy's a master at PR - the same as Thomas Eddison. Not really inventing all that much but spouting ideas.

As for robotaxis by next year - they could certainly put them out there.

Safely? Not a chance.

Another example of Tesla using their customers and the general public as beta testers - only with robotaxis, there's a substantial additional chance of tragedy.

fairly clever then. He did however join less than 1 year after it's inception and a full 4 years before the first car was made.

Bit like Steve Jobs and Apple, the first Aplle computer was made before Steve Jobs had even seen it yet most people probably think he invented the Apple I.

He's exactly like Steve Jobs - Overrated just like Steve Jobs.

He's good at condensing ideas down to their purest form, which is a useful skill - but ultimately, he doesn't make the product what it is. He's extremely good at taking the credit for making the product what it is however.

Elon's precisely the worst kind of CEO - the horror stories are fairly widely known in automotive development circles.

24 April 2019
CarNut170 wrote:

xxxx wrote:

CarNut170 wrote:

Peter Cavellini wrote:

 This is a bit of a stretch, he may be a genius (?) but , Cars with no pedals or wheel to steer?, I’d like to be proved wrong but.....

Not a genius at all, he didn't even start Tesla, he retrospectively got that title after bringing in a load of funding with him.

The guy's a master at PR - the same as Thomas Eddison. Not really inventing all that much but spouting ideas.

As for robotaxis by next year - they could certainly put them out there.

Safely? Not a chance.

Another example of Tesla using their customers and the general public as beta testers - only with robotaxis, there's a substantial additional chance of tragedy.

fairly clever then. He did however join less than 1 year after it's inception and a full 4 years before the first car was made.

Bit like Steve Jobs and Apple, the first Aplle computer was made before Steve Jobs had even seen it yet most people probably think he invented the Apple I.

He's exactly like Steve Jobs - Overrated just like Steve Jobs.

He's good at condensing ideas down to their purest form, which is a useful skill - but ultimately, he doesn't make the product what it is. He's extremely good at taking the credit for making the product what it is however.

Elon's precisely the worst kind of CEO - the horror stories are fairly widely known in automotive development circles.

Google: Bill Burr Steve Jobs

You can thank me later!

24 April 2019
jason_recliner wrote:
CarNut170 wrote:

xxxx wrote:

CarNut170 wrote:

Peter Cavellini wrote:

 This is a bit of a stretch, he may be a genius (?) but , Cars with no pedals or wheel to steer?, I’d like to be proved wrong but.....

Not a genius at all, he didn't even start Tesla, he retrospectively got that title after bringing in a load of funding with him.

The guy's a master at PR - the same as Thomas Eddison. Not really inventing all that much but spouting ideas.

As for robotaxis by next year - they could certainly put them out there.

Safely? Not a chance.

Another example of Tesla using their customers and the general public as beta testers - only with robotaxis, there's a substantial additional chance of tragedy.

fairly clever then. He did however join less than 1 year after it's inception and a full 4 years before the first car was made.

Bit like Steve Jobs and Apple, the first Aplle computer was made before Steve Jobs had even seen it yet most people probably think he invented the Apple I.

He's exactly like Steve Jobs - Overrated just like Steve Jobs.

He's good at condensing ideas down to their purest form, which is a useful skill - but ultimately, he doesn't make the product what it is. He's extremely good at taking the credit for making the product what it is however.

Elon's precisely the worst kind of CEO - the horror stories are fairly widely known in automotive development circles.

Google: Bill Burr Steve Jobs You can thank me later!

 

Just go over this one again for me.

He is an incredibly talented and clever individual that has run Tesla in an astute way. And if you think otherwise, then he is still a very cunning CEO if he can take credit for ideas. He is a master of PR and can spout some incredible ideas.

24 April 2019
jason_recliner wrote:
CarNut170 wrote:

xxxx wrote:

CarNut170 wrote:

Peter Cavellini wrote:

 This is a bit of a stretch, he may be a genius (?) but , Cars with no pedals or wheel to steer?, I’d like to be proved wrong but.....

Not a genius at all, he didn't even start Tesla, he retrospectively got that title after bringing in a load of funding with him.

The guy's a master at PR - the same as Thomas Eddison. Not really inventing all that much but spouting ideas.

As for robotaxis by next year - they could certainly put them out there.

Safely? Not a chance.

Another example of Tesla using their customers and the general public as beta testers - only with robotaxis, there's a substantial additional chance of tragedy.

fairly clever then. He did however join less than 1 year after it's inception and a full 4 years before the first car was made.

Bit like Steve Jobs and Apple, the first Aplle computer was made before Steve Jobs had even seen it yet most people probably think he invented the Apple I.

He's exactly like Steve Jobs - Overrated just like Steve Jobs.

He's good at condensing ideas down to their purest form, which is a useful skill - but ultimately, he doesn't make the product what it is. He's extremely good at taking the credit for making the product what it is however.

Elon's precisely the worst kind of CEO - the horror stories are fairly widely known in automotive development circles.

Google: Bill Burr Steve Jobs You can thank me later!

 

Just go over this one again for me.

He is an incredibly talented and clever individual that has run Tesla in an astute way. And if you think otherwise, then he is still a very cunning CEO if he can take credit for ideas. He is a master of PR and can spout some incredible ideas.

23 April 2019

I suspect he’s been on the wacky baccy again...

23 April 2019

.... then take a eurostar to france, do 2 laps of the arc de triomph taking 2 exit&entry each time. roadworthiness afterwards isn't compulsory, but no software errors are allowed

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