Ford Focus RS or Renault Clio Cup - which is the ultimate hot hatch? To find out Autocar tested them back-to-back.
The Focus RS500 is billed as the ultimate expression of a hot hatch. But has it gone too far? With 345 bhp and a price tag up with a BMW 335i or a base spec Porsche Cayman has this extremely talented but insane hatchback forgotten its roots?
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At £35,750, up £7,855 over the ‘standard’ RS, the RS500 has an extra 45bhp, a shade more torque, a matt black vinyl wrap and a few interior details. It also comes with the hugely evocative RS500 name, last used on the whale tailed Sierra Cosworth.
The Clio Cup musters a naturally aspirated 197bhp and 156lb ft of torque from its 2.0-litre four pot motor. Its price of £16,710, under half of the Ford, asks a lot of questions of the menacing Focus.
The RS500 has the answer in third gear. In its lowest two ratios, the Focus’s torque is limited to the same levels as in the standard RS to protect the gearbox and improve traction. But when you slot third, you enter a different world – one dominated by induction gasps and the sort of acceleration the Clio can’t live with.
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It is also a world that features a fair amount of torque steer, even with its trick Revo-knuckle suspension. On a dry straight road you have to hold the wheel quite tight, but it seems a reasonable trade-off for the performance available.
Find a section of road that’s quiet enough and the Focus feels brutally rapid. Just as we found with the regular RS, the RS500 has a playfulness to its chassis that is downright amusing. Turn in, lift off and the nose tucks in nicely without any real risk of misadventure, then get back on the power.It’s the classic front wheel drive recipe, but honed for maximum enjoyment.
Swap into the Clio and it can feel underwhelming. With the poorer ride and an artificial feel to its steering, the only obvious advantage is its lightness: at 1204kg, it carries 263kg less than the Ford. But it is from this lack of mass, and a closely stacked set of ratios, that everything else grows.
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Although its outright pace will still be less than the RS500, between the wave of gearchanges, frenzy of revs and a surprisingly useful upshift buzzer, the sense of pace is at times greater in the Clio.
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Re: Focus RS500 v Clio Cup
They do not! there is no way a potential RS 500 customer would buy a Clio it just wouldnt happen! The RS500 is competing with the Evo's and Imprezas of this world. not souped up superminis.
And Price always comes into it.... but the kind of person willing to spend 30K on a Focus woulnt even give a Clio a thought
Re: Focus RS500 v Clio Cup
Oh Beachland2, you don't half talk some cock about the RS family at times. Did a fast Ford pick on you at school?
The RS/RS500 has a wider track than the ST and is widely acknowledged to be a far better handling car, so even you with your evident genius may struggle to make it a better handling car. I've never driven an ST, but here's the opinion of a guy who'd tuned his ST to ~300hp, thought it was the match of any RS, then had a spin in my standard RS:
"Also thank you to Jonnytheboy for taking me for a quick spin in his mk2 FRS, i love those things. Anyone who claims they are simply a tuned ST.....erm you're wrong. lol."
I can link to this if you think I'm making it up.
Re: Focus RS500 v Clio Cup
but they do...they're both the performance version of their standard cars, so in a way they do appeal to the same demographic...
personally i like these wacky comparisons...all you ever get is a regular battle based on price or apparant market position, ie BMW vs Audi vs Merc, or Ford vs Vauxhall...what if price didn;t come into it?? for instance, is a bmw 3 series at £30k better than an insignia at £20k..?? or is a Merc E class 7 seat better than an S-max..? or a £20k yeti better than a £45k disco???