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Enzo to be a test bed for carbonfibre tech; boss hints that hypercar will use twin-turbo V8
Jim Holder
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7 May 2010

Ferrari will not make widespread use of carbonfibre in its production road cars until it better understands the material’s long-term reliability, according to company boss Amedeo Felisa.

“We will only use carbonfibre on very special cars which have a very low rate of production and which are not for everyday use, such as the new Enzo,” he said in an exclusive interview with Autocar.

Ferrari has used carbonfibre in such cars as the F50 and Enzo, but Felisa says it is not yet ready to use it across its model range. This puts it at odds with McLaren, whose MP4-12C supercar has a carbon tub. Mercedes is also committed to using carbonfibre in its cars from 2012, as is BMW from 2013.

“The fact is that nobody today has a real understanding of what happens if you damage a carbonfibre structure,” says Felisa. “After 20 or 30 years of use, who knows what state a carbonfibre structure will be in? Only the airplane industry has a long-term understanding of using carbonfibre, and there the usage is very different. Unless you have a really big accident, it is possible to repair a Ferrari today, and we don’t want to lose that.”

Felisa also hinted that the new Ferrari Enzo will be powered by a direct-injection twin-turbo V8 when it is launched in 2012.

Reports had long suggested the new Enzo would be powered by either a V8 or direct-injection twin-turbo V6. However, Felisa has ruled out a six-cylinder engine.

“There are no plans for a six-cylinder engine today,” Felisa said. “Ferrari will not build a six-cylinder engine until customer attitudes towards smaller engines change.

“The perception today is that the number of cylinders equates to the possibilities of the car. That is why we are developing hybrid technology that can be applied to our V8 and V10 cars. Hybrid means we can protect the V12.

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giulivo 10 May 2010

Re: Next Ferrari Enzo: new details

Rover P6 3500S wrote:
I did once get a ride in an F40, over about 100 miles - the whole thing rattled, it was incredibly noisy in the cabin, the handling was pretty vicious, the engine sounded horrid, there was terrible turbo lag, and it was hideously ugly to boot

Which is notoriously what supercars are judged by.

The fact that it goes like the stink (with a professional driver at the wheel), can lap circuits faster than a dog can lap water, with times that are still impressive by today's standard, and that it has won several motorsport races, is irrelevant by comparison.

Admittedly, I have never driven anything more powerful or faster than an SZ, so I am not talking from direct experience; sure I would not be able to extract all of its performance from an F40, but I guess that's true for most readers here. They definitely don't design supercars with someone like me in mind, which does not mean I can't tell one when I see one.

Rover P6 3500S 10 May 2010

Re: Next Ferrari Enzo: new details

disco.stu wrote:

Rover P6 3500S wrote:
Oh, stop it, you're just proving yourself to be snide and immature. You don't have to have been in a car to have an opinion on its appearance

Oh no, you misunderstood. I was specifically referring to the Space Shuttle's inarguably hideous handling and build quality (those insulating tiles are a great example) compared to the Spruce Goose. I know this because i have been a passenger in several different planes so I have lots of experience to comment on how they handle.

Just stop it, disco.stupid. You cannot possibly comment on the Space Shuttle's handling or build quality, as you've never been in one (AFAIK!). I have, however, been in an F40. Being a passenger in a plane is not the same as being a passenger in a car - you don't see the pilot fighting the stick/wheel. I did see the driver of the F40 in question fighting the wheel as the thing tried to spin: it had truly vicious oversteer.

disco.stu 10 May 2010

Re: Next Ferrari Enzo: new details

Rover P6 3500S wrote:
Oh, stop it, you're just proving yourself to be snide and immature. You don't have to have been in a car to have an opinion on its appearance

Oh no, you misunderstood. I was specifically referring to the Space Shuttle's inarguably hideous handling and build quality (those insulating tiles are a great example) compared to the Spruce Goose. I know this because i have been a passenger in several different planes so I have lots of experience to comment on how they handle.