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Saab introduces new engines for the 9-5 and 2011 9-3
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9 September 2010

Saab has introduced two new engines for its 9-5 model – a 187bhp 2.0TTiD and a 178bhp 1.6T.

The 2.0TTiD is the first Saab diesel to offer cross-wheel drive, Saab’s four-wheel drive system, and will propel the 9-5 from 0-62mph in under nine seconds.

See pics of the new Saab 9-5 and 9-3 models

It has 295lb ft of torque and has a projected combined cycle fuel consumption of 47.1 mpg and CO2 emissions of 159 g/km.

The 1.6T petrol offers combined cycle fuel consumption of 36.2 mpg and CO2 emissions of 179 g/km and is available in Vector SE specification with front wheel drive and a manual gearbox.

Read the full road test of the Saab 9-5 2.0 TiD Vector SE

The Saab 9-5’s options list is expanded by the addition of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and customers can now choose from 11 colours rather than the original seven.

ACC enables the driver to select a cruising speed and the car will automatically alter the chosen speed to maintain a specified gap to the vehicle in front. There are visual and audible warnings should the driver be required to take action, such as heavy braking.

Saab 9-3 2011 revised

Details of the revised 2011 9-3 have also been released. Saab has introduced a new 1.9-litre diesel line-up with 128bhp TTiD, 158bhp and 178bhp versions.

The new engines were developed specifically to be more efficient. All three now have twin turbochargers and in the saloon they all give CO2 emissions below 120g/km and a combined cycle fuel consumption of 62.8 mpg.

The SportWagon offers 61.4 mpg and CO2 emissions of 122g/km and the Convertible offers 54.3 mpg and 137g/km respectively.

Efficiency measures introduced include optimised gearing, recalibrated engine management, improved aerodynamics and low rolling resistance tyres for reduced road friction.

Equipment has also been increased with Bluetooth phone integration, a ‘change-up’ indicator and heated front seats now offered as standard.See all the latest Saab reviews, news and video


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9 September 2010

Saab won't make it past the time limits on their loans. j

9 September 2010

[quote jl4069] Saab won't make it past the time limits on their loans[/quote]

Don,t say that I hope they do as they are a company that could bring much character and innovation to motering . So I hope your wrong the new 9-5 is a lovely car and now its got even more engines more choice they do need to reduce there prices a little do Saab .What Saab needs to do now is realise that coupe they previewed a year ago the Aero-x thats what they need now would really help .

9 September 2010

The lower emmisions engines make a strong case for the business user, who after all will be the main buyer of a car like this.

It doesnt hide both cars dynamic shortcomings though, and the biggest problem for Saab 'pecieved value'

The truth is that Saab are way way out of their depth, there is no possible way they can survive in todays marketplace. For every step forward they take Audi and BMW take three.

9 September 2010

SAAB (as much as i hate to say it) face an uphill battle just to stay afloat, they have to pay $15m to Sweden's Vastra Gotaland region by Sept. 20 or it will ask the public debt collector to enforce payment. And Spyker have refused to comment on the payment. If SAAB can't can $15m (a small amount of money in the motor industry) how is it going to continue operations? I doubt very much the new 9-5 will help SAAB, it doesn't seem good enough to take sales from the dominant German premium brands (even if people want something different!).... Sad days indeed!

9 September 2010

It's not just perceived value but perceived brand identity.

When a commenter is adamant that a 9-3 should cost around £13,000 new, when you can't even buy a Hyundai for that price; you know something is wrong.

SAAB do make 'on par' quality vehicles however the design is minimalistic which doesn't work in the premium class where Chrome and wood prevail. Although both materials are in actual fact plastic. This is often not highlighted; either because it is of zero interest or because the owner/reviewer is looking through rose tinted glasses.

My perspective of SAAB is somewhat bias but I will also understand they don't make the perfect vehicle; AUDI does't, neither does BMW. But what SAAB do, is produce a vehicle that does 95% of what the average driver expects. If you're on the road 10 hours a day, then buy a SAAB because the seats are the best you can buy. If you want a car that will will give you that driving buzz but you know your skills aren't up to the task. A SAAB will fore fill that purpose. If you want a vehicle that is perceived better than FORD, renault and Toyota but don't want to pay for every little creature comfort and run the risk of somebody keying your car because of the status you wish to portray; then a SAAB could be worth considering.

It's my impression that the perception of the SAAB brand is based on what people have seen, read or heard and not from first hand experience. The quote that "SAAB won't make it" is based on what grounds? That for that person SAAB is just not interesting, therefore could not be of interest to anybody else. Or is it because they've read some quote by Sergio Marchionne of FIAT where he is convinced that a car company must produce 5 million units pa. in order to stay afloat. FIAT the company that now has 8 brands of which only 2 make a profit with the other 6 make considerable losses, exceeding the reported yearly £250 Million that SAAB cost GM; which when you consider GM now has AWD in passenger cars, along with direct injection, Turbocharging, variable valve control, flex-fuel and hybrid systems and soon a dual-clutch system; All developed by SAAB is a pretty good deal for £250 Million a year for a company that at it's height was producing 17 Million unit pa.

SAAB are on their own now, yes they are still tied to GM but as partners which means anything GM needs, has to be paid for and there is a lot of intellectual property belonging to what was GM Powertrain AB now owned by SAAB automobile AB. Life at SAAB will not be easy but then it never has been.

When most people are convinced that SAABs are Vauxhalls when in fact it's the other way round, it's going to be a long time before many perceptions change. What SAAB are doing about this is re-designing the 9-3 platform and make it their own and use an external premium architecture for their sub-compact project. This will sever GM ties and put an end to 20 painful years.

9 September 2010

The 2.0TTiD was available the 9-3 from late 2006 so not new!

9 September 2010

[quote jl4069]Saab won't make it past the time limits on their loans. j[/quote] Perhaps you could expand a little and tell us what you base such an assertion on ? It's easy to make statements like this without back-up facts, but that's hardly a fair and reasonable thing to do.

9 September 2010

[quote ordinary bloke]Perhaps you could expand a little and tell us what you base such an assertion on ? It's easy to make statements like this without back-up facts, but that's hardly a fair and reasonable thing to do.[/quote]

Every time there is an article about SAAB on here, a 'select' few pedants crawl out of the woodwork and vomit the same old bilge over and over again. 'Fair and reasonable' is a particularly ambitious expectation ordinary bloke.

9 September 2010

I sincerely wish SAAB well, but feel that unless they can back to SAAB basics (destroyed by GM) very fast they won't make it..

I am sure there is a market for "good value, no nonsense" Scandinavian values. Perhaps not only a market, but a future trend. SAAB used to be there, if they can go back they can buck all these negative predictions.

9 September 2010

[quote Roger Frost]

The 2.0TTiD was available the 9-3 from late 2006 so not new!


The 9-3 has a 1.9 Diesel engine so the 2.0TTiD is new. Also the 2011 Diesel line-up in the 9-3 range puts the end to any 8 Valve technology in SAABs portfolio. This puts SAAB back to where it was nearly 30 years ago when even in the mid-Ninties, BMW was still hammering an 8 valve engine into the Z3.

I think many people don't realise what SAAB have achieved this year. They've had to start from scratch. In February production had stopped, nobody was working and the company was in a state on liquidation. Since then Spyker SAAB has had to re-contract workers, suppliers and partners for each model. They've had to find new Importers for Export business and new shipping/Transport companies. On top of that they've had to launch a brand new vehicle under spectacularly unique and difficult circumstances including the biggest global recession in 60 years. The fact the new 9-5 doesn't have the console facia that it should have is a testament to what SAAB has been able to achieve in the last 6 months. But Magazines like Autocar would rather give the 9-5 a 2-Star rating and not explain the full story. The 9-5 was launched not under cloud but during a hurricane and I feel the motoring press could have been a bit more easy going.


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