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20 November 2009

These are the first spy pictures of a hybrid BMW 1-series prototype undergoing testing.

The car's powertrain is only identifiable by the 'Hybrid Test Vehicle' stickers that adorn the rear windows and rear bumper.

See the hybrid BMW 1-series spy pictures

The hybrid arrangement is believed to be a scaled down version of the one already available on the 7-series and X6, which has the motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission, with a compact lithium ion battery in the rear.

The hybrid 1-series is tipped for production when the next generation 1-series is launched in late 2011 or early 2012, and will fight for sales with the production version of the Lexus LF-Ch concept car, which was shown at the Frankfurt motor show earlier this year.

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20 November 2009

-as much as I like dislike BMW i dislike Toyota probably about the same if not more so; thus this article made me smile, it shows Toyota have it way wrong with the Prius i.e. if this BMW with a "mild hybrid" gets anywhere near the Prius (which it will and maybe it will beat it) then the extra resource Toyota have to place in each Prius (more batteries, wiring etc) means that Prius is totally out dated and indeed the worng technology; hybrids are for bigger vehicles and Toyota have led some people of the world on a merry dance for a few years now.

-looking at the timings they are bringing this car out around the 2012 olympics

-however and I say sorry to Nissan again and that the UK olympic committee do not speak for the UK as a whole and that the Nissan bid should have been accepted with its electric vehicles and EDF infrastructure.

-the person from the last forum on the Nissan olympic thing also hit the nail on the head with regards Renault; imagine having some of those funky little two seat things around; it would have been great!

-Lord Coe, I honestly think you should resign from your job, you let the UK down really badly and you should leave your post.

-sorry again to Nissan from one UK resident that feels Lord Coe and his pals made the wrong choice; they should have selected Nissan and its electric cars with EDF lasting infrastructure; I conclude that Nissan's bid had way to much common sense as the decission should not have been an outright money issue.

-still BMW spending all that money which it does not have on sponsorship and the Prius/Toyota looking really stupid in the same week as yet another (the new 5 series) ugly BMW will serve I hope as at least a little consulation to Nissan; again to Nissan from one UK resident please understand Lord Coe and his pals do not speak for all of the UK and I think Lord Coe should resign and be quick about it.

20 November 2009

Well done for staying on topic there!

What a pointless waste of my time reading that tripe!

20 November 2009

I'm with you. I had to go back and read the article again just to remember what was being discussed. What a waste of time. I really don't get all the pointless hate of BMW, and how this is the wrong direction. They are clearly interested in the market that Toyota have acheived with the Prius and soon to have with Lexus. You may think that it is the wrong direction, but the 12 month waiting list on the Prius would suggest otherwise.

20 November 2009

Well, to be fair CapsLock is a huge Nissan fan (in the same way that HyundaiSmoke loves, err, Hyundais) and the news of the Olympic snub to Nissan in favour of BMW, must've been hard for him to take. But I'm sure he'll emerge from the dissing of his favourite marque, at the hands of the dastardly Lord Coe and co., better and stronger.

20 November 2009

-i make no secret of not liking BMW or Toyota or indeed that the Prius technology is at the wrong time and placed into the wrong vehicle; time is showing that and as it will continue to do so; Prius was a mistake and Toyota will pay dear.

-the reason a waiting list for the Prius has occured is there are lots of people who still believe it is the right car to buy (even though it is not) and Toyota do not make any of them; again a rather foolish mistake by Toyota and I feel for the purchasers of the Prius as I genuinely think they want to help the environment and they genuinely think that is one way to do; I think the commitment is brilliant by those people it is just misguided to buy a Prius.

-as I have stated before, the way forward is electric like the Nissan Leaf with Chevy Volt type range extenders in the medium to long term. in the short term mild hybrids and general efficiency savings like eco-turbo stop start engine stuff and better areo is the way forward short term.

-hybrids should be kept for large cars upwards like how Ford are using it; the SUV Escape thing (which is the most efficient in the world (from memory)) and the large car (I forget which one) they have in the USA.

-the olympic committee messed up, sure BMW paid more money but the fact remains they promised legacy for the future and what did we get, we got short term effectively yesterdays tech.; Lord Coe messed up, simple as; its nothing to do with party politics, he just messed up and he should go; nothing more of less than that.

-as has been said before you do not have to read any post, you do not even have to comment, if you do not like them, do not read them; i really do not believe my nose will suffer any loss of skin; do not forget to give to children in need this fine evening or over the weekend

21 November 2009

Again I don"t get what you are on about.

1. If you think that stop start, mild hybrids are the short term solution, then you should be applauding BMW who have implemented this technology accross their range.

2. I agree that hybrids make more sense in larger cars. BMW and Lexus are the only makes that currently offer this technology.

3. The Ford Escape is not the most effecient SUV. That title goes to the Lexus RX, again Toyota technology. The Ford Co2 emmissions are 228grams/km while the Lexus emmissions are 144grams/km.

I look forward to the new technology of electirc cars with range extenders and I really hope it works. I hope that if you plan to drive one of these cars that you are saving already as the Vauxhall version is rumoured to cost more than 30K. Good luck with that. I won't be one of the people trading in my BMW for a Vauxhall, or Nissan.

While you talk aout future technology, all of the current technology is on the market by Toyota and BMW. Right or wrong they still lead the way.

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