GM's vice chairman reveals plans for all-electric version of Chevrolet Volt
14 January 2010

An-electric version of the Chevrolet Volt will be built, to take on competitors such as the Nissan Leaf, GM vice chairman Bob Lutz has confirmed.

The standard Volt can run for up to 40 miles on a charge, before switching to a 1.4-litre engine starts up to generate electricity to power the car. It will go on sale in the US later this year, and in Europe in 2011.

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Lutz told reporters at the Detroit motor show that it would be "technologically trivial" to build the all-electric version of the car.

"Once you've done the Volt, pure electric is trivial. You just leave some parts out," Lutz said.

Lutz also warned that electric vehicles may not get the full stated range on fully electric power because of weather, atmospheric conditions, terrain and driving habits.

"It varies a lot more than the range variation with a gasoline-powered car depending on your driving style," Lutz said, confirming he had got just 28 miles from a Volt during extreme cold weather.

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14 January 2010

[quote Autocar]Lutz said, confirming he had got just 28 miles from a Volt during extreme cold weather.[/quote]

ah yes, technically that's called Winter! Happens pretty much regular as clockwork in the northern hemisphere November to around April, sub-zero temps, frost, ice, snow, all that type of sh!t. Too bad the d!ckheads behind the 'milkfloat revolution' never factored that in.
All this EV sh!t is unravelling faster than Global Warming. Gee, wonder if the two are connected? After all, once you start lying it's almost impossible to stop: WMDs, man-made Global Warming, Electric Vehicle revolution to save the Planet, Swine Flu pandemic - what happened to that?, ...

Anyone thinking of buying a Volt, or any kind of milkfloat take a look at latest solar activity, or lack of it. Although sunspots have returned the sun's magnetic energy is at a recorded low. This means more Global Cooling, which means more frigid batteries, which means the death of the EV cult:

14 January 2010

OK, so they might leave the petrol motor out, but unless you put a lot more batteries in you are stuck with a car with a 40 mile range. (28 when used by Bob Lutz). As the batteries are the really expensive bit, its going to push its price up even higher.

And think about 28 miles. Unless you want to charge you car on Very expensive day time electricity (and lots of it) you have to comute less than 14 miles. 10 would make me nervous on the way home with that range, and the fact ythat GM accept the car will eveltually only hold about 25% of the original capasity (a daily range of 7 miles), suggests it needs its petrol motor very badly.

14 January 2010

it's stupid decisions like this that kill off gm! they should give me the job.. ;)

14 January 2010

Wake up, global warming or not, fossil fuels are still a limited resource and now China and India are jumping on board in a big way, one that's getting more limited (and expensive) every year. Me, I think that the surge in technology be it electrical or otherwise is far more interesting than any petrolhead arms race and will ultimately leave it far behind in performance as well as efficiency. Just wait a few years and you'll all be upgrading your electric motors and battery packs instead of bolting on trumpet exhausts and trick ignition systems. Personally, I'm planning on running the Porsche on fermented coffee grounds and whatever the cat brings in.

14 January 2010

[quote artill] the fact ythat GM accept the car will eveltually only hold about 25% of the original capasity (a daily range of 7 miles[/quote]

I miss read the other info. GM actually claim that the charge will drop to 70 to 80 % of the original. That could still give you a daily range of less than 20 miles without a recharge.

14 January 2010

[quote fleabane]the surge in technology [/quote]

what surge in technology? the fundamental 'technologies' are what were there 100/150 years ago. They died originally - Ford's hemp oil powered car, Diesel's peanut oil fuelled engine and so on because petroleum became affordable through finds in Oklahoma and so on. Yes there has been a surge, but only in marketing hype off the back of the Global Warming hoax. Anyone falling for this, who hasn't got some skin in the game, i.e. a vested interest making money out of the Hoax and EVs, is beyond dumb.

[quote fleabane] Just wait a few years and you'll all be upgrading your electric motors and battery packs [/quote]

Yeah, yeah, anyone older than 35 has heard this all before, going back to Lucas' electric vehicles during the recurring fuel crises in the 70s/early 80s, and then the promise was 'by this time next year everyone will be driving around in battery-powered vehicles...' The Volt will go down as the next Sinclair C5 - that had a 'range extender' too - a set of pedals.

14 January 2010

[quote fleabane]Wake up, global warming or not, fossil fuels are still a limited resource [/quote]

so is the Sun's hydrogen fuel - burn out in approx 3 billion years - but I'm not exactly imminently worried about that.

There is no shortage of oil. Oil is at $80 but should be at $30, given fundamentals of current demand. The US is mired in recession, actually a depression - real unemployment rate 22% - and real consumer demand still falling - Dec 09 tax-take down ~10% on 'recession bottom' month of Dec 08.

The rest of The West is little better. The BRIC countries can never really take off and launch widespread affluent middle classes in their countries as they are hooked into producing goods and energy supply for a foreseeable crippled western economy. Natural gas price is less than half its mid 2008 price. Gazprom has pulled the plug on any further major gas field development as its main market in Europe has shown no real sign of recovery and hence demand for gas, beyond seasonal variations. The UK has huge coal resource. It could use this for heating, power generation and road fuel, for decades, if not several centuries to come. We are being brainwashed into acceptance of appalling milkfloats through the AGW hoax and BS about imminent oil runout.

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