Swedish firm wants motorists to consider "the complete emissions picture"
15 July 2010

Volvo Car UK has launched an 'Emissions Equality' campaign which aims to encourage UK car buyers to think "about a car’s complete emissions picture, rather than just CO2 in isolation".

The Swedish firm is proposing the adoption of a labelling scheme for new and used cars that details an engine's emissions of nitrogen oxides, hydrocarbons and particulates as well as CO2. Unlike CO2, nitrogen oxides, hydrocarbons and particulates are locally harmful to human health.

This information is already held on government databases for all cars sold in the UK since 2001. Volvo is also launching an application for phones and computers which intends to give drivers access to this "total emissions information".

The labelling scheme would mimic the one used in the US, which gives a 1-10 score for both a car’s "Greenhouse Gas" and "Air pollution" emissions.

Volvo claims that there are dramatic differences in the output of 'non-CO2' pollutants from cars sold in UK. It says that the a 2.5-litre petrol-engined Volvo V70 generates some 201mg/km of 'non-CO2' pollutants, compared with the 484mg/km emitted by a 1.4-litre Fiat 500 equipped with a start-stop system.

Volvo's campaign comes in the wake of threats by the EU to levy fines of up to £300m on the UK because of the country's poor air quality.

According to Professor Frank Kelly of Kings College, London there are 4300 premature deaths in London every year, and 50,000 across the UK, as a result of air pollution, 70 per cent of which comes from road transport.

Professor Kelly says that the lungs of children in inner city areas are particularly vulnerable to roadside particulate pollution, which is generated almost entirely by diesel traffic.

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15 July 2010

Good for them - we do need to look at the wider picture. However, if this data has been around since 2001, why the hell has no-one been giving it to us, the buyers?

Also, I do find that figure for the Fiat 500 rather difficult to believe in comparison to the figure for the V70 2.5...

15 July 2010

Check out vcacarfueldata.org.uk and see for yourself. We use this government website frequently for work and some of the data is very surprising. For instance, the new Porsche Cayenne Turbo is, CO2 aside, by far the cleanest engine available for the Cayenne...

15 July 2010

This is a big plus point for common sense. Well done Volvo.

I've thought this for a while now (despite not having any hard evidence) that there is a lot more to pollution than just CO2 - and I find it rather unfair that road tax etc is based on CO2 alone and not the complete picture. I would tend to think that perhaps the reason is because diesel will end up looking like a very bad deal when the full picture is revealed.

The fact the data has actually been around so long but never given to us actually makes me a bit angry.

15 July 2010

Government should take a serious look at this, if people are dieing because of it, how are they going to get their tax? after all, they are the ones who are forcing people to resort to diesel cars because of the cost of survivng here

15 July 2010

[quote Straight Six Man]owever, if this data has been around since 2001, why the hell has no-one been giving it to us, the buyers?[/quote]

Take a look at http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/search.asp for all the emissions information you could possibly want.

FIAT 500 figures: http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/vehicleDetails.asp?id=24895

Volvo V70 figures: http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/vehicleDetails.asp?id=25658

And just to show how much cars have improved over the last nearly 10 years, the 2001 model year Volvo V70 2.4T output 1729mg of 'non CO2' pollutants - more than 8 times as many as the current car. Still think it's a good idea keeping those old gas guzzlers running in urban areas?

15 July 2010

Instead of targetting cars all the time, the authorities should be taking a tougher stand with commercial vehicles, taxis and buses. Fining the UK is a useless exercise (but a typical EU way of getting more money) far better to spend that money on cleaning things up and further clean technologies, giving it to the EU is a complete waste.

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15 July 2010

About time!

EU Governments have been fixated on CO2 for years so we have the domination of the diesel without any consideration to the extra junk they belch out. Boris Johnson's plans for revising the London Congestion Charge largely ignore this - they're more about raising taxes than cutting congestion and improving air quality in the city.

Let's align legislation with worthy goals for a change - don't let the bureaucrats and major manufacturers take us down the easiest short-term road, but seriously look at the bigger picture.

15 July 2010

Wonderful to see good sense, but its no good if no one else is listening. I would love to hear a responce to this from our government.

15 July 2010

I can definitely believe that in the case of the Fiat 500 1.4 you have pretty high NOx etc - the reason being that it's quite an old engine design. The U.S try and simplify and give a score out of 10 (10 is the best). It's quite interesting, especially as I just looked at one vehicle where the automatic scores 9, the manual scores 7 - despite the fuel economy being worse on the automatic - the reason being that with an automatic and a torque converter you can keep fuel being delivered to the engine during a gear change, in a manual you cut the fuel supply abruptly, then reapply abruptly, increasing emissions. http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/Aboutratings.do

15 July 2010

Let's hope this grows into something worthwhile - we all know on here that CO2 is NOT a pollutant - just look at the filth spewing out of the exhausts of lorries taxis and older diesel cars, now that is pollution. They are the vehicles our dear Govt should be targetting - but no - their campaign over the past few years has brainwashed many into believing the CO2 from cars will kill us all. It is a taxation con - nothing else.


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