Committee on Climate Change tells government to make motorists pay
13 October 2009

A national road-pricing system should be introduced to make motorists pay for reducing carbon dioxide emissions, according to the government’s climate change advisory body.

In addition, the board has said that the speed limit on all motorways should be more strictly enforced and may have to be reduced to 60mph to help to meet legally binding carbon reduction targets.

The Committee on Climate Change, which devised the CO2 reduction targets and advises the government on how to meet them, has reported that emissions aren't dropping fast enough.

Among its suggestions for meeting targets are the introduction of road pricing as an additional tax on motorists, alongside fuel tax.

The report says: "From an emissions perspective, road pricing should be introduced as a complement to fuel duty rather than a substitute. This conclusion is buttressed by the fact that fuel duty plays a crucial role in providing incentives for purchase of electric cars, increasing electric car cost savings relative to conventional cars.”

It says that by 2020, road pricing could save 5.6 million tonnes of carbon dioxide a year — 5 per cent of total road transport emissions. It says the savings could rise to 15 per cent a year by 2040.

The report concludes: "Road pricing could be a useful component of a strategy for transport emissions reduction, and the committee recommends that this should be seriously considered by the government."

It also calculates that rigorously enforcing the 70mph limit would save 1.4 million tonnes of CO2 a year.

It says that reducing the motorway limit to 60mph would save an additional 1.5 million tonnes of CO2 a year.

It also says the government may have to double the grants planned for electric cars from 2011 to £10,000 for at least the first 25,000 buyers. It says otherwise the extra cost of battery-powered cars would be prohibitive.

The committee concludes that the total subsidy needed to achieve widespread use of electric cars is likely to be £800 million, rather than the £250 million pledged by ministers.

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13 October 2009

60 mph on motorways ... the world has finally gone mad.

Please tell me this is a bad dream.

13 October 2009

I can't help but wonder what political party would be prepared to go into bat with a policy of effectively pricing poor people off the road - indeed a double whammy of road pricing and ever-increasing fuel duty - nice...

I'd also like to know where all that lovely clean electricity will be coming from for this torrent of electric vehicles as there appears to be no coherent strategy on energy security by the government.

One of the major professional civil/structural engineering bodies bemoaned the boom in gas-fired power stations some years back citing the sheer wastefulness of burning gas to create electricity and highlighting large-scale hydro schemes in Wales as the only realistic way to make a serious dent in greenhouse emissions. The government did nothing. We now simply don't the expertise or time to build new nuclear stations, nor do we really have any policy (still) on what to do with the waste, most alternative energy does not produce that much electricity for the area it requires and clean coal involves "hiding" CO2 under the sea bed...

13 October 2009

If the C.O.C.Cs ( I assume that's the acronym for the members of the Committee) want to reduce CO2 emissions then perhaps we should start growing our own food, eating food that is in season rather than buy strawberries from Brazil. Perhaps we could make our own clothes and furniture too, that would also help the economy killing two birds with one stone...

In other words there are far more acceptable ways of becoming more efficient then driving to stop people from driving to see their families, taking their children to visit interesting places and meeting people who you would otherwise never meet.

Let's hope the C.O.C.Cs are just enough expensive Labour Quango.

The comments section needs a makeover... how about a forum??

13 October 2009

[quote brinardi]as there appears to be no coherent strategy on energy security by the government[/quote]

I can't think of a single world government that has a coherent energy/climate change strategy

13 October 2009

[quote McJohn]Please tell me this is a bad dream.[/quote]

I hope so. But I'm going to err on the side of caution and get myself a V8 and enjoy it for a while until some anorak draped government idiot comes along and takes it off me.

13 October 2009

So how exactly do the people who come up with this rubbish get around the country?

Are they the eco-dimwits who buy a Toyota Prius and then think they are doing their bit to save the planet?? Or are they the ones that plug their G-Wiz's into the national grid powered by dirty power stations??

Wish I could be paid as much as them to come up with this rubbish!

13 October 2009

Ha, ha, yes I was thinking about getting a V8 too! It was Clarkson that made me think of it when he presented that piece while driving an Aston at the end of the series (music by Brian Eno helped a lot too). I think we really are getting to the end of an era when you can drive even a Hummer without too much attention from a greenut. It's very sad, because the link between carbon dioxide and warming is STILL unproven.

Calling for drivers to pay by the mile as if it's new is silly, because we already do through petrol tax. I wouldn't mind paying by the mile as long as taxes are readjusted so that I'm not paying any additional amount. Road tax, petrol tax, insurance tax, and VAT all mean I'm paying quite enough already for truly appalling road surfaces.

13 October 2009

april fools was months ago! i really think that who ever came up with this has a wasp up their A***

13 October 2009

[quote superheater]

[quote McJohn]Please tell me this is a bad dream.[/quote]

I hope so. But I'm going to err on the side of caution and get myself a V8 and enjoy it for a while until some anorak draped government idiot comes along and takes it off me.


That settles it them, I'm taking the Porsche today ... while I still can!

13 October 2009

It works like this. When you are in power you commission reports to say things that sound awful. they you can appear very measured and reasonable doing 'a bit less'.

No one was ever going to take this report seriously. (I HOPE)

It would be very easy to limit CO2 output. (ban the sale of cars over a certain figure. Give people a 'carbon allowance', follow the advice of the idiots who wrote the report), but they dont want to. what they really want is the tax that they can generate by allowing us to continue to our current lifestyles. If Green taxes worked and we changed how we live, they wouldnt generate any money, and the governments figures would all be rubbish ( i know they are anyway, but not for this reason).

But to those of you who have mentioned getting a V8. Do it. I did 4 years ago, and i can assure you, life is better for having a V8!! You just dont know how much longer it will be relatively affordable.


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