Harriet Harman admits driving without due care and attention
8 January 2010

Harriet Harman, deputy leader of the Labour Party, has received a fine of £350 after pleading guilty to driving without due care and attention.

Ms Harman has had three points added to her driving licence, having reversed her Rover 75 into a parked car while using her mobile phone in Camberwell last July.

However, a second charge of driving while using a mobile phone was withdrawn.

The House of Commons leader and equality minister has now amassed a total of nine points on her licence, the first six coming from a speeding charges in 2007 and 2008.

Motorists with 12 points face a driving ban.

Tom Richards

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8 January 2010

Not exactly a shining example to our road using citizens is she?

Should we call for her resignation?

8 January 2010

she got off very lightly i think. It doesnt show British Justice in a favourable light does it!

8 January 2010

[quote artill] It doesnt show British Justice in a favourable light does it![/quote]

Very hard to show british justice in a favourable light when police target easy convictions to improve their stats , and serious offenders , when caught , are let out early.


9 January 2010

This is what happens when a member of the fairer sex gets into the wrong seat of a mechanically propelled vehicle, based on the combustion engine.

Women - Know your limits!

9 January 2010

[quote Uncle Mellow]Very hard to show british justice in a favourable light when police target easy convictions to improve their stats.....[/quote]

The police just arrest people for breaking the law, they don't decide whether they are likely to get a conviction or not, that's the job of the CPS. In reality, the police are very often frustrated by the CPS' failure to proceed with cases and other cases that get thrown out of court due to procedural errors. It's very easy to criticise the police when you don't have to do the job.

By the way, which laws would you like the police to overlook and not bother upholding?.

As for Harriet Harman, I wouldn't say she was a target for an easy conviction. What she did was help prove what all sensible people know and that is that talking on a mobile phone whilst driving is dangerous and likely to lead to an accident. She then compounded the issue by driving off without leaving her details. Frankly, as others have said, she got off very lightly.


9 January 2010

[quote 4rephill]By the way, which laws would you like the police to overlook and not bother upholding?.[/quote]

Speeding. Isn't it obvious?

9 January 2010

I have just read the report of the court case in today's 'The Times'. Accepting that you only get a summary of a case in a newspaper I am still left wondering why she was prosecuted. It was apparently a low speed manoeuvre (virtually 0 mph) that caused no damage to an empty, parked vehicle nor were there any injuries.

A few weeks ago I was in a queue on a slip road which had a slight up-hill incline. The car in front started to roll back slowly, but despite three loud 'toots' it bumped into my front bumper (again at virtually 'nil' mph). I don't know whether the driver was using a mobile or that he/she was simply distracted (morning rush-hour) but he/she did not get out of their car and when the lights changed simply drove off. I noted the car's make, colour and registration number, time and location but as there was no discernible damagae to my car I let the matter lie. Any thoughts on what the police would have done if I had reported the incidenT? Euverem

9 January 2010

[quote 4rephill]By the way, which laws would you like the police to overlook and not bother upholding?.[/quote]

How about overlooking assaults committed by householders on intruders who have broken into their homes ???

10 January 2010

[quote Uncle Mellow]

[quote 4rephill]By the way, which laws would you like the police to overlook and not bother upholding?.[/quote]

How about overlooking assaults committed by householders on intruders who have broken into their homes ???

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Or, corrupt MPs making claims for expenses they are not entitled to claim for.

Back when the MP expenses scandal broke, I remember a senior Met spokesperson saying in grave tones that they'd be looking into the likes of Elliot Morley (the Labour MP who claimed mortgage expenses he wasn't entitled to claim for. Also known as fraud.). To date? Not a sound, not a word, not a whisper.

What are our police (and, note to our police apologist, they are our police - we pay their wages) actually for?

10 January 2010

[quote Dan McNeil v2]Back when the MP expenses scandal broke, I remember a senior Met spokesperson saying in grave tones that they'd be looking into the likes of Elliot Morley [/quote]

Such types of investigation would be high profile and as such all mistakes during the investigation, such as breaking rules of evidence, poor investigative technique from officers and PACE irregularities would be seized upon by the media.

Much easier to criminalise motorists, target those who drive them and not mess about with all that nasty PACE stuff.

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