GM has canned tomorrow’s deadline for the closure of Saab
30 December 2009

GM has canned tomorrow’s deadline for the closure of Saab and announced that production lines will roll again to fulfil orders for the new 9-5 and 9-3 Cabrio the company has announced.

However this does not mean that GM has abandoned plans to sell off its troubled Swedish outpost and is still considering offers after a failed bid from Dutch car maker Spyker. "We are preparing a wind-down process . at the same time we are open to options to bids that come in," a Saab spokesman said.

GM is thought to still be in talks with potential buyers for Saab. A revised Spyker bid is thought to still be on the table, as well as the American company Merbanco Inc. General Motors is also believed to be considering continuing making the soon to be launch 9-5 saloon, albeit with Buick branding.

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30 December 2009

yeah, rebrand saab, that'll sort it out. american management ?

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30 December 2009

So... GM mismanaged SAAB for 20 years, built SAABs on one of GM's worst ever front wheel drive chassis (from the Vectra) and tarnished the brand with shite build quality and poor styling and then created lazy, half witted abominations such as the Subaru Impreza wagon based 9-2 while endlessly long-fingering cars vital to the brand's survival in certain markets...

Now that they're seemingly about to drive the final nail into the Swedes coffin, they've come up with a totally new way of thinking with regard to Buick. Take an Opel/Vauxhall Insignia put a new grille on it and call it a Buick Regal. Take a Chevrolet Cruze, put a new grille on it and bill it as the new baby Buick. Take a SAAB 9-5 put a new grille on it and call it a Buick too; rather than let the company you've already endlessly screwed over for 2 decades benefit from producing it. Of all of the above cars, the 9-5 is the one least deserving of this fate and least likely to make a convincing Buick. It is far too clearly a SAAB in every element of it's design language.

But then again GM never was one to be detered by such trivialities. Do any of the people running this monstrosity actually know anything about cars and / or the people that buy them at all? Seriously, these people could give master classes in actual learning disabilities.

30 December 2009

[quote pdmc]

So... GM mismanaged SAAB for 20 years, built SAABs on one of GM's worst ever front wheel drive chassis (from the Vectra) and tarnished the brand with *** build quality and poor styling and then created lazy, half witted abominations such as the Subaru Impreza wagon based 9-2 while endlessly long-fingering cars vital to the brand's survival in certain markets...

Now that they're seemingly about to drive the final nail into the Swedes coffin, they've come up with a totally new way of thinking with regard to Buick. Take an Opel/Vauxhall Insignia put a new grille on it and call it a Buick Regal. Take a Chevrolet Cruze, put a new grille on it and bill it as the new baby Buick. Take a SAAB 9-5 put a new grille on it and call it a Buick too; rather than let the company you've already endlessly screwed over for 2 decades benefit from producing it. Of all of the above cars, the 9-5 is the one least deserving of this fate and least likely to make a convincing Buick. It is far too clearly a SAAB in every element of it's design language.

But then again GM never was one to be detered by such trivialities. Do any of the people running this monstrosity actually know anything about cars and / or the people that buy them at all? Seriously, these people could give master classes in actual learning disabilities.

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Well said.

Too many money men running a car company and too many models based on one GM platform. Saab's should be different and quirky, that why people buy them. The new 9-5 fitted the bill and GM are thinking of rebranding it a Buick, tell you all you need to know about the people at the top of GM.

30 December 2009

Buick isn't sold in the EU, so it would probably be for a limited audience, maybe teh US and China (ironically competing with previous-generation 9-5s under a new name...and with Chinese quality control).

In any case, I hope that enough 9-5s are produced so that, in case that SAAB is finally dismantled (I'm keeping my fingers crossed, though), I will still be able to find one two years from now and get what seems to be a great car for cheap.

SAAB really seems to have put their soul into this new product (check out the dedicated sections on their website), only to -be forced to- arrive too late to help them elude the GM Chainsaw Massacre. Such a shame.

30 December 2009

GM really are crap .... they can't even sell a brand, close a brand .... or heaven forbid grow a brand!!

The Saab 9-5 is alreay a Buick, the Regal / LaCrosse. All 3 cars are based on the Insignia ... the Regal is just an Insignia with a new grille and taillights ... the LaCrosse has a different body and interior. The Saab 9-5 is an Insignia with a new body and interior, and very nice it is too.

Whilst I feel for Saab, the Swedish workers and it's few loyal customers I have no sympathy for the stupidity of GM. The most arrogant and stupid of all car companies .... the biggest car company in the world that got so arrogant and totally ignored the customers because it knew best, remind me GM managers of the last 20 years, where did all your customers go and why??

If they could answer those questions ..... they would not be in the mess they are now.

30 December 2009

GM have got more faces than the town hall clock! First they're selling, then they're closing SAAB, now they're doing a bit of both. It's a joke. I really hope Spyker get somewhere with their bid - surely any bid is better than just 'winding' SAAB down. Hopefully something will get sorted - and soon. It would be good to have a positive future for SAAB from the beginning of 2010!

"The creative adult is the child who survived."

30 December 2009

I think GM is going to be finished in the next few years them selfs, there too many cars been made and not enough people to buy them - over priced and poor GM cars no thank you! Once China come into US/Europe you mark my word GM will be finished. James.

31 December 2009

I can't believe I'm about to write this. The new SAAB 9-5 is basically the Buick La Crosse, so GM is already using the 9-5. Given Buick's position in China, could have been part of the reason why the Koenigsegg/BIAC deal fell through. Not only does GM have a problem with their IP heading East but I'm sure they don't want the new 9-5 rivalling the Buick La Crosse in China either.

31 December 2009

Genetically Modified GM products thats about right

4 January 2010

[quote TOD1888]and too many models based on one GM platform.[/quote]

There's nothing wrong with platform sharing. It's what you build up from there that's important. Look at VW, Seat, Skoda, Audi.....

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