Chinese demand for the Mercedes R-class will continue the model's production until at least 2015
24 February 2012

In the first official confirmation that the slow-selling R-class will be retained, Mercedes-Benz chief Dieter Zetsche has said it will continue in its current form until at least 2015. “We need it for the Chinese market,” an insider told Autocar.

Also confirmed in Mercedes’ growing SUV ranks is a BMW X6 rival, called the MLC. Set to be built in the US from 2015, it will receive a unique four-door body riding on modified M-class underpinnings. Engines will include a 571bhp version of AMG’s twin-turbocharged 5.5-litre V8 petrol unit.

Other SUVs due by 2015 include a facelifted GLK, the new M-class, a second-generation GL and heavily revised versions of the G-class, in hard-top and cabriolet body styles.

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24 February 2012

It's not that the R Class was / is a bad car. On the contary, considering its size and weight it was actually not bad at all but it was an answer to a question no one had asked - in most markets at least.

 

 

It's all about the twisties........

24 February 2012

[quote TegTypeR]it was an answer to a question no one had asked[/quote]

Disagree entirely Teg- I'm asking. A classy, luxurious, powerful (non-SUV) MPV is something that I would love to get my hands on. Audi only has the Q7 which is insanely big and has major SUV aggressiveness, ditto for the Merc GL. The X5 can be specced with 7 seats and is less intimidating than a Q7 but is still very definitely an SUV. Same for the Disco. I'm not sure if Merc still does a 7 seater E Class, possibly it does but once you've had a full size MPV (Galaxy/Espace size) an estate with fold up seats doesn't quite cut it in the practicality stakes. Volvo has the ancient XC90, again an SUV style vehicle. Volvo should be a master at proper 7 seat vehicles by now but just isn't.

I know you can get a top of the range Galaxy, Sharan, S-Max etc., but it would be great if there was a bit more choice from some of the less 'mid-range' manufacturers. The German marques seem to invent classes at the drop of a hat these days so why not a sporty, classy full size MPV style car? That's what the R-Class was supposed to embody but it is just so damned ugly and out of proportion with the real world, well, the UK bit of it anyway, that it was never going to catch on here.

24 February 2012

[quote supermanuel]I'm asking. A classy, luxurious, powerful (non-SUV) MPV is something that I would love to get my hands on.[/quote] I second that motion. It is the best family car on sale.

24 February 2012

[quote optimal_909][quote supermanuel]I'm asking. A classy, luxurious, powerful (non-SUV) MPV is something that I would love to get my hands on.[/quote] I second that motion. It is the best family car on sale.[/quote]

That no one want's. Funny enough I saw one this morning, I had to do a double take as I wasn't sure what it was as I haven't seen one for so long.

Apparently it's one of the few Mercedes you can get big discounts on

 

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24 February 2012

Forget about the R for a minute, I wish they sold the GLK over here. About the only car that i would consider a rival for my 5 year old forester XT. Seen a few on the continent and they look great in an old school merc way. Just me?

24 February 2012

[quote supermanuel]

[quote TegTypeR]it was an answer to a question no one had asked[/quote]

Disagree entirely Teg- I'm asking. A classy, luxurious, powerful (non-SUV) MPV is something that I would love to get my hands on. Audi only has the Q7 which is insanely big and has major SUV aggressiveness, ditto for the Merc GL. The X5 can be specced with 7 seats and is less intimidating than a Q7 but is still very definitely an SUV. Same for the Disco. I'm not sure if Merc still does a 7 seater E Class, possibly it does but once you've had a full size MPV (Galaxy/Espace size) an estate with fold up seats doesn't quite cut it in the practicality stakes. Volvo has the ancient XC90, again an SUV style vehicle. Volvo should be a master at proper 7 seat vehicles by now but just isn't.

I know you can get a top of the range Galaxy, Sharan, S-Max etc., but it would be great if there was a bit more choice from some of the less 'mid-range' manufacturers. The German marques seem to invent classes at the drop of a hat these days so why not a sporty, classy full size MPV style car? That's what the R-Class was supposed to embody but it is just so damned ugly and out of proportion with the real world, well, the UK bit of it anyway, that it was never going to catch on here.

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You may have asked for a luxury MPV (as have I before now, there is a definite market for one) but until very recently the R Class was only ever offered as a six seater! That's part of the question no one had ever asked.

Forgetting the looks for the moment, I am sure had they offered it in 7 seat format from the out, it may have been a better success.

 

 

It's all about the twisties........

24 February 2012

[quote optimal_909] I second that motion. It is the best family car on sale.[/quote]

Its the most expensive and has the poshest badge, doesnt make it the best though.

24 February 2012

[quote TegTypeR]It's not that the R Class was / is a bad car.[/quote] I remember being impressed when seeing one of these in a showroom, it seemed beautifully finished and looked very smart, if quite big. I've only ever seen one on the road, well in a car park actually. I pulled into the space behind it and was surprised to see an elderly lady get out of the driver's seat, she was so short it had looked as though the car was unoccupied, as I got out of my car I heard her tell a friend who had approached that it was her new car chosen by her daughter who had told her it would be useful for taking the grandchildren out, "....there's more room than I need but the performance is excellent" she said just as my passenger nudged me and pointed out the badge on the back denoting a 4.5lt V8 engine.


Enjoying a Fabia VRs - affordable performance

24 February 2012

[quote TegTypeR]You may have asked for a luxury MPV (as have I before now, there is a definite market for one) but until very recently the R Class was only ever offered as a six seater! That's part of the question no one had ever asked. [/quote]

Actually, I only need 6 seats in the vast majority of situations :-) So that's never really been the issue with this car for me, but I accept your point Teg.

I still wish that there were more alternatives to the run of the mill MPV's or the premium and very massive SUV's.

24 February 2012

If ever there was a news story that explains in very simple detail why manufacturers make the cars they make, this is it. Many posters on this forum (and I don't mean the ones posting on this thread) are very willing to say a car is a success or failure, based upon their own needs to drop the kids off at the school and collect their dry cleaning from the dry cleaners. Not understanding that the UK market is completely insignificant and car designers around the world aren't desperate to prove they work well on 'UK roads'. They will do that for the US and they will do that for China. The R-Class is an ok car, but not enough people in the UK have the particular itch that needs to be scratched. My father in-law sold his R-Class to a Chinese gentleman in London.If car manufacturers are selling less cars in the UK, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they have gone down the drain, more likely, they can't be bothered to create a car that will be judged on how well a motoring can get it to do a Scandinavian flick on their test track or how economical its diesel engine variant is.

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