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UK car manufacturing continues to decline – as industry bosses again warn of no-deal Brexit risks
James Attwood, digital editor
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30 April 2019

British car manufacturing declined for the tenth month in a row in March – and industry bosses have warned it could slump to 1980s levels in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

A total of 126,195 cars were built in the UK last month, according to data from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT). That is a 14.4% decline on the 147,505 vehicles produced in March 2018, and brings total output for the first quarter of 2019 to 370,289, a 15.9% drop from last year’s output of 440,530.

The March decline was sharpest in the domestic market, with the 26,873 UK-bound cars representing an 18.1% fall from 2018. Demand for exports, which account for 78.7% of all cars produced in 2019, fell 13.4% in March.

The SMMT also cited new independent production forecasts that said a no-deal Brexit resulting in the UK adopting World Trade Organization rules for an extended period could reduce production to 1.07 million units by 2021, a fall of around 30%. 

The SMMT says those forecasts show that, under a Brexit deal with a sustained transition period maintaining current trade agreements, production would dip to 1.36 million units this year, before rising back to 1.42 million by 2021. That would still be a decline on the 1.52 million units produced in 2018.

SMMT boss Mike Hawes said: “Just a few years ago, industry was on track to produce two million cars by 2020 – a target now impossible with Britain’s reputation as a stable and attractive business environment undermined. All parties must find a compromise urgently so we can set about repairing the damage and diverting energy and investment to the technological challenges that will define the future of the global industry.”

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30 April 2019

If the EU hadn't removed tariffs on cars made in Japan then Honda, Toyota etc might still have an interest in making cars in Europe.  But by removing the Germans knew it would make it easier to sell BMW's, Audi's etc in Japan, the EU knew the job losses would mainly affect the UK.  Thanks  Juncker, Tusk Schilz and all the northern European leaders in their exclusive club 

30 April 2019
xxxx wrote:

If the EU hadn't removed tariffs on cars made in Japan then Honda, Toyota etc might still have an interest in making cars in Europe.  But by removing the Germans knew it would make it easier to sell BMW's, Audi's etc in Japan, the EU knew the job losses would mainly affect the UK.  Thanks  Juncker, Tusk Schilz and all the northern European leaders in their exclusive club 

I think you'll find that Japan doesn't charge tariffs on imported cars so the likes of Merc and BMW aren't bothered by the deal. Mercedes are at the moment just about the only foreign car maker to sell a relatively substantial number of cars in Japan.

30 April 2019
Cé hé sin wrote:

xxxx wrote:

If the EU hadn't removed tariffs on cars made in Japan then Honda, Toyota etc might still have an interest in making cars in Europe.  But by removing the Germans knew it would make it easier to sell BMW's, Audi's etc in Japan, the EU knew the job losses would mainly affect the UK.  Thanks  Juncker, Tusk Schilz and all the northern European leaders in their exclusive club 

I think you'll find that Japan doesn't charge tariffs on imported cars so the likes of Merc and BMW aren't bothered by the deal. Mercedes are at the moment just about the only foreign car maker to sell a relatively substantial number of cars in Japan.

Goes a bit further than that.  Got the following from FT "The EU estimates the accord will save it €1bn in customs duties per year".  The deal is known as “cars for cheese” deal and aims to slash duties on not just cheese but wine as well.

Fine for wine and cheese producers of France, Germany and Spain etc but it basically means Japanesse car jobs will be lost in Europe (mainly UK) which the EU are happy to swap for jobs in the wine industry. 

30 April 2019

Got the following detail regarding European cars going to Japan from Global Transport site.

"Furthermore, Japan will remove obstacles that prevent European cars from entering the Japanese market."

30 April 2019
xxxx wrote:

Cé hé sin wrote:

xxxx wrote:

If the EU hadn't removed tariffs on cars made in Japan then Honda, Toyota etc might still have an interest in making cars in Europe.  But by removing the Germans knew it would make it easier to sell BMW's, Audi's etc in Japan, the EU knew the job losses would mainly affect the UK.  Thanks  Juncker, Tusk Schilz and all the northern European leaders in their exclusive club 

I think you'll find that Japan doesn't charge tariffs on imported cars so the likes of Merc and BMW aren't bothered by the deal. Mercedes are at the moment just about the only foreign car maker to sell a relatively substantial number of cars in Japan.

Goes a bit further than that.  Got the following from FT "The EU estimates the accord will save it €1bn in customs duties per year".  The deal is known as “cars for cheese” deal and aims to slash duties on not just cheese but wine as well.

Fine for wine and cheese producers of France, Germany and Spain etc but it basically means Japanesse car jobs will be lost in Europe (mainly UK) which the EU are happy to swap for jobs in the wine industry. 

So youre against trade deals ? The EU and Japan have agreed to drop tarrifs on each others goods, to most people this is a good thing, youre saying its bad ? Youre against free trade ??

30 April 2019
typos1 wrote:

xxxx wrote:

Cé hé sin wrote:

xxxx wrote:

If the EU hadn't removed tariffs on cars made in Japan then Honda, Toyota etc might still have an interest in making cars in Europe.  But by removing the Germans knew it would make it easier to sell BMW's, Audi's etc in Japan, the EU knew the job losses would mainly affect the UK.  Thanks  Juncker, Tusk Schilz and all the northern European leaders in their exclusive club 

I think you'll find that Japan doesn't charge tariffs on imported cars so the likes of Merc and BMW aren't bothered by the deal. Mercedes are at the moment just about the only foreign car maker to sell a relatively substantial number of cars in Japan.

Goes a bit further than that.  Got the following from FT "The EU estimates the accord will save it €1bn in customs duties per year".  The deal is known as “cars for cheese” deal and aims to slash duties on not just cheese but wine as well.

Fine for wine and cheese producers of France, Germany and Spain etc but it basically means Japanesse car jobs will be lost in Europe (mainly UK) which the EU are happy to swap for jobs in the wine industry. 

So youre against trade deals ? The EU and Japan have agreed to drop tarrifs on each others goods, to most people this is a good thing, youre saying its bad ? Youre against free trade ??

No, I'm filling in the blanks of the story including what effect the dropping of tarrifs will do jobs in the EU, especially the UK.  Are you against the full story? Do you still not like opinions? 

30 April 2019

Oh well. British politicians only ever see the inside of a factory during an election campaign, let alone lobby for British manufacturing interests. They're too busy snuggling up to financial services. Still it's always easier to blame foreigners. Bloody Huguenots coming over here with their Calvinism and lacework.

30 April 2019
xxxx wrote:

Cé hé sin wrote:

xxxx wrote:

If the EU hadn't removed tariffs on cars made in Japan then Honda, Toyota etc might still have an interest in making cars in Europe.  But by removing the Germans knew it would make it easier to sell BMW's, Audi's etc in Japan, the EU knew the job losses would mainly affect the UK.  Thanks  Juncker, Tusk Schilz and all the northern European leaders in their exclusive club 

I think you'll find that Japan doesn't charge tariffs on imported cars so the likes of Merc and BMW aren't bothered by the deal. Mercedes are at the moment just about the only foreign car maker to sell a relatively substantial number of cars in Japan.

Goes a bit further than that.  Got the following from FT "The EU estimates the accord will save it €1bn in customs duties per year".  The deal is known as “cars for cheese” deal and aims to slash duties on not just cheese but wine as well.

Fine for wine and cheese producers of France, Germany and Spain etc but it basically means Japanesse car jobs will be lost in Europe (mainly UK) which the EU are happy to swap for jobs in the wine industry. 

Ah yes, the well known cheeses from Germany.  Of which I can name not a single well known cheese.  The UK on the other hand being a world famous cheese producer (which under EU food labelling protection means English cheddar can only be made in England .... etc).  Anyone would think you are talking total bollocks.

30 April 2019
xxxx wrote:

If the EU hadn't removed tariffs on cars made in Japan then Honda, Toyota etc might still have an interest in making cars in Europe.  But by removing the Germans knew it would make it easier to sell BMW's, Audi's etc in Japan, the EU knew the job losses would mainly affect the UK.  Thanks  Juncker, Tusk Schilz and all the northern European leaders in their exclusive club 

A view only by someone with tunnel vision. There is more to life than cars!

But to suggest the EU did this because they knew it would mainly affect the UK - Jeez, that's straight out of the Donald Trump Univeristy of thought. 

You may not be aware of this but the UK is still a member of the EU and the UK was as involved as any other EU member in brokering them. But folk like you who like to spead fake news would have everyone believe it was negotiated by Juncker, Tusk etc.

Next theory you come up with, best starting with a blank sheet of paper, not one which has bias written all over it. 

30 April 2019

Before the usual idiots get talking (I see Mike Hawes has already), I would remind everyone that not only is car manufacturing down across the globe, all manufacturing is (the rate).  Germany could be in serious trouble within months as it's a manufacturing nation, same for Poland.  Also, we should remember that car manufacture in the UK accounts for less than 1% of our economy - just 0.8% of GDP.  To give you some idea of how insignificant car manufacturing in the UK is, it employs ONE FIFTH of the number of people employed in the financial sector IN LONDON ALONE.  That's how small it is.  It employes only 140 times the number of kids that were in my secondary school!  I know we're all car-mad, and we tend to think it's the centre of the universe sometimes (like the media thinks London is everything there is), but although it is of concern to people employed making cars, on a bigger UK picture, it's small fry.

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