GM Europe and PSA Peugeot Citroën are reported to be discussing an alliance in Europe
23 February 2012

GM Europe and PSA Peugeot Citroën are reported to be discussing an alliance to develop and build cars. A report in the Financial Times suggests the two companies have been talking for several months about forging a European-based partnership.

With both companies announcing significant financial losses in Europe last week, a tie-up would be attractive, particularly in terms of research and development on future products.

According to the FT, the potential link-up would involve joint development and production of engines, transmission systems and vehicles.

Although there has been no official comment from either GM or Peugeot, France’s labour minister Xavier Bertrand confirmed earlier this week that Peugeot’s chief executive Philippe Varin had informed him of talks about a partnership with GM.

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23 February 2012

On the face of it, I assume this may go down the same sort of lines as the Fiat / GM alliance went a couple of years ago.

Really though it's too early to comment but it will be one to watch.

 

 

It's all about the twisties........

507

23 February 2012

Sounds like a marriage made in heaven - they certainly deserve each other!

23 February 2012

Already all European Ford cars have diesel engines from Peugeot/Citroen even if Ford make many of them. Would an alliance between GM Europe and PSA mean all Opels/Vauxhalls having these engines as well? What would happen between Fiat and GM over all their shared engines and the tie up between Suzuki and GM and the ties between Suzuki and Fiat?

Are they all going to take on the current might of the VW group.

24 February 2012

[quote Maxycat]Are they all going to take on the current might of the VW group[/quote]

I am sure you are right, its all about what VW are able to offer. As few consumers care about more than the badge on the car, whats underneath matters little, and so more shared parts between these 2 would surely help both.

24 February 2012

Dumb and Dumber anybody?

24 February 2012

I remember back in the 70`s Peugeot had a fantastic reputation for strong, durable build quality and levels of engineering excellence that rivalled Mercedes Benz`s of the day. The 504 was a true giant amongst its rivals.

Styling was left to a professional design house while Peugeot worked its brilliance on the chassis.

Today Peugeots range are poorly styled, cheaply engineered and with no real USP, a properly sad reflection on what they once were.

As a manufacturer of a mediocre range of cars they should fit well with GM`s ethos.

24 February 2012

Now that GM appear to be on the up I would have thought the last thing they want is a lame duck like peugeot weighing them down.

It's not that bigger story anyhow as there's hardly a manuafacturer out there that is totally indepent even BMW have a tie-up with Toyota

 

Hydrogen cars just went POP

24 February 2012

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Now that GM appear to be on the up I would have thought the last thing they want is a lame duck like peugeot weighing them down.

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It seems more like the other way around to me! Peugeot / Citroëns of the last few years have been pretty decent in my opinion, whereas Vauxhall / Opel don't seem to have a clue, other than trying vainly to push their products up-market, where they just don't belong. They tend to look OK, and have expensive feeling switchgear, but that's about it. It's all window dressing.

I can see the benefits for GM Europe, as they seem to be lagging behind on engine and gearbox technology, but what's in it for PSA?

24 February 2012

I hope that the next C5 wont be a rebadged Insignia.

PSA I reckon could get 4x4 tech to replace the Mitsubishi 4007/Ccrosser. Now that everybody is obsessed with with SUVs, a rebadged Antara as the new 5008.

Also, GM hybrid / electric drive trains would complement the Mitsubishi based PSA electric car.

Where is the coupe 508? Perhaps they could join forces for this, and have a new Calibra out of it too!

24 February 2012

[quote Oilburner]

[quote xxxx]

Now that GM appear to be on the up I would have thought the last thing they want is a lame duck like peugeot weighing them down.

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It seems more like the other way around to me! Peugeot / Citroëns of the last few years have been pretty decent in my opinion, whereas Vauxhall / Opel don't seem to have a clue, other than trying vainly to push their products up-market, where they just don't belong. They tend to look OK, and have expensive feeling switchgear, but that's about it. It's all window dressing.

I can see the benefits for GM Europe, as they seem to be lagging behind on engine and gearbox technology, but what's in it for PSA?

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Most Peugeot's look the same to me especially the 207 and 308. Anyhow Peugeot / Citroëns managerment will probably be looking at tables like the following and trying to workout why they their dull cars aren't selling and GM's are.

Year To End Of October 2011

1. Ford Fiesta – 84,506 Sales

2. Ford Focus – 72,875 Sales

3. Vauxhall Corsa – 67,259 Sales

4. Volkswagen Golf – 54,413 Sales

5. Vauxhall Astra – 53,201 Sales

6. Vauxhall Insignia – 41,309 Sales

7. Volkswagen Polo – 39,944 Sales

8. BMW 3 Series – 37,314 Sales

9. Nissan Qashqai – 33,552 Sales

10. MINI – 30,305 Sales

 

Hydrogen cars just went POP

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