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Electric car will rely on subsidies to be affordable

The Nissan Leaf will be priced from 3.76 million yen (£27,000) in Japan and $32,780 (£21,700) in the US, signalling the company is planning to rely on government subsidies to make it affordable.

The Japanese price, announced today, is about a million yen (£7200) below the Japanese asking price for Mitsubishi's i-MiEV electric car, but significantly greater than the current best-selling eco car, the Prius, which starts at two million yen (£14,400).

However, government subsidies will drop the Leaf price by a around one million yen, to three million yen (£21,500), in Japan, and by about a quarter to £16750 in the US.

"The most important point of our cars is zero-emissions," Toshiyuki Shiga, chief operating officer of Nissan, said while promoting the low ownership costs of the Leaf. "Hybrid vehicles still consume gasoline. I want to fully push this sales point."

The Leaf will go on sale later this year in Europe and the United States.

Nissan said it aims to sell 6000 Leaf cars, its first mass-volume all-electric model, in Japan over the next 12 months. Orders open next month, with deliveries due in December.

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theonlydt 30 March 2010

Re: Nissan Leaf - first prices

sierra wrote:
short-range commuting
I don't see that. The range as quoted is 100 miles. Let's imagine it works out in heavy traffic, lights, wipers and your radio is half of that. That's 50 miles. My father's commute every day (he did 20-30k a year) was about 35-40 miles to London. Now he gets there, parks in his company car park, plugs it in and within 4 hours its ready to drive home. He worked ~12 hour days. He worked a 6 day week, that's about 350 miles a week on average (for longer journeys he tried to take train). He could have done all of that on electric power saving about £50 a week over a 1.6 family hatchback. Also at no time would he have been releasing CO, NOx or hydrocarbons in to the London environment. I had a commute that was 33 miles a day - the leaf would have been perfect for that. Quiet, easy to drive (apparently) and saves a fortune on petrol. That's without taking in to account having an oil change every 9k, 12k or whatever it is now. Add to that zero road tax. Now "second car". Mummy drives two little darlings to school, two schools as one is primary, one secondary. Call it 10 miles to both schools and back home. Does that twice a day. 20 miles. Trip to tescos/friend/town/work/whatever. Another 10 miles a day round trip. So, 30 miles a day, all in short trips - when an internal combustion is at its least efficient (especially cold starts). The leaf could do all these without a recharge until night-time, or can charge midday, whatever. Now compare the price of a Leaf to the Qumquat thingy for the school run, or to any of the other faux 4x4s that line the streets outside most schools. It makes sense. When they've proved that the electric batteries will be ok where I am (regularly -20 in winter), which is one of the greatest tests of batteries (range, price and weight are the others!) then I have no doubt I will be purchasing a vehicle like the Leaf. I may travel more than 50 miles in a day once or twice a month, max - take my wife's car instead. Tiny compromise to have zero tailpipe emissions.

Widescreen 30 March 2010

Re: Nissan Leaf - first prices

I am getting one of these as soon as they come out.

The range is what 100 miles and although I have not looked up to see if the figures have changed, I seem to think it was 80% recharge for 30mins on single phase and 15 mins for 80% on three phase; I can go to a meeting 160 miles away, which is more than plenty.

160 miles per day for many people is fine. For all my journeys its more than enough, I will use one for work, any journeys I do long distance are done by train.

This car is not aimed at 40K miles per year sales reps, but as the charging points expand and I am sure carbon credits will come into it and with employers wanting to get more green you will see them expanding.

Renault have the electric vans coming out as well as the cars etc - electric cars are most certainly the future.

Well Done Nissan! (and Renualt), it will be interesting to see if the share deal and link up with Daimler comes off in early April especially the joint development in terms of electric cars, that is a seriously technological alliance.

sierra 30 March 2010

Re: Nissan Leaf - first prices

Comparing it to a family hatchback is irrelevant - the Leaf doesn't offer the same facilities - it is limited to short-range commuting/school-runs. To meet a family's overall motoring needs a second car is required.