Facelifted Lotus Elise dips below 150g/km of CO2
9 April 2010

The facelifted Lotus Elise will emit 149g/km of CO2 - 16 per cent less than the current model.

Lotus claims the emissions figures make the Elise "the lowest CO2 [car] for its performance level for any gasoline sports car in the world." The figures equate to a 56.1mpg average on the extra urban cycle.

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The low emissions are boosted by the car's low weight (876kg versus 1334kg for the Porsche Boxster), while it is also four per cent more aerodynamic and the 1.6-litre VVT-i powerplant is smaller, but as powerful as the outgoing 1.8-litre unit.

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9 April 2010

[quote Autocar]Lotus claims: [/quote]

"with its new Toyota Corolla engine the Elise will be unstoppable!"

£27k for 0-62mph in 6.7 secs. Is this meant to be a joke?

9 April 2010

[quote Autocar]Lotus claims the emissions figures make the Elise "the lowest CO2 [car] for its performance level for any gasoline sports car in the world."[/quote]

Seat Ibiza Cupra: 180PS, 148g CO2/km 0-62mph 7.2s

So what is so great about this Toyotus? A VW group 1.4 twin-charger engine - soon to be in the Polo GTI - kicks out more power, for less CO2s, yet in vehicles weighing around 300kgs more. It's only by virtue of weighing a third lighter than a Polo that this thing manages near par for emission. i.e., the Toyota engine is much less efficient. If VW tweaks the 1.4 twincharger I'm sure they can match the half-second or so deficit in acceleration time.

9 April 2010

[quote nicksheele]£27k for 0-62mph in 6.7 secs. Is this meant to be a joke?[/quote]

For a Lotus it's too slow. Comparing against some hot hatches with FWD it's ok, but the Lotus is supposed to be a sports car, hence why you make compromises to things such as comfort, accessibility etc.....

9 April 2010

[quote nicksheele]

[quote Autocar]Lotus claims the emissions figures make the Elise "the lowest CO2 [car] for its performance level for any gasoline sports car in the world."[/quote]

Seat Ibiza Cupra: 180PS, 148g CO2/km 0-62mph 7.2s

So what is so great about this Toyotus? A VW group 1.4 twin-charger engine - soon to be in the Polo GTI - kicks out more power, for less CO2s, yet in vehicles weighing around 400kgs more. It's only by virtue of weighing a third lighter than a Polo that this thing manages near par for emission. i.e., the Toyota engine is much less efficient. If VW tweaks the 1.4 twincharger I'm sure they can match the half-second or so deficit in acceleration time.

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Come now, nick.

A Lotus Elise is a purpose-designed sports car.

A Seat Ibiza is a shopping-trolley. A Cupra badge doesn't turn this perfectly competent shopping trolley into a sports car. It merely turns it into a slightly faster shopping-trolley.

Comparing an Elise to an Ibiza is like comparing a Mercedes to a lawnmower.

When VAG starts producing a car with the dynamic abilities of the Elise, then we can start making some meaningful comparisons.

9 April 2010

[quote Symanski]For a Lotus it's too slow. Comparing against some hot hatches with FWD it's ok, but the Lotus is supposed to be a sports car, hence why you make compromises to things such as comfort, accessibility etc..... [/quote] A sports car is not just about speed.

9 April 2010

[quote Dan McNeil v2]When VAG starts producing a car with the dynamic abilities of the Elise, [/quote]

- that little known brand, Porsche? Boxster already is market leader, and next update not far away now. Lotus needs serious cash to stay in the game. Can the Malaysians afford it? - doubt it.

Boxster £34k 260 PS 0-62mph 5.9s (Porsche notoriously understates its performance figs.). That plastic Elise looks awfully expensive with its Corolla engine for min. £27k.

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9 April 2010

[quote nicksheele]Boxster £34k 260 PS 0-62mph 5.9s (Porsche notoriously understates its performance figs.). That plastic Elise looks awfully expensive with its Corolla engine for min. £27k.[/quote]

Firstly, 7k price difference is an awful lot of money to most people. Lotus should be congratulated for trying to keep prices within reach for those who want a proper sports car.

Secondly, if you are going to compare like with like:

Boxster 35k 0-62mph 5.9s

Elise 1.8 35k 0-62mph 4.4s

9 April 2010

[quote nicksheele]

[quote Dan McNeil v2]When VAG starts producing a car with the dynamic abilities of the Elise, [/quote]

- that little known brand, Porsche? Boxster already is market leader, and next update not far away now. Lotus needs serious cash to stay in the game. Can the Malaysians afford it? - doubt it.

Boxster £34k 260 PS 0-62mph 5.9s (Porsche notoriously understates its performance figs.). That plastic Elise looks awfully expensive with its Corolla engine for min. £27k.

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Make your mind up, nick.

Are you comparing the Elise with an over-priced souped-up shopping-trolley or an overpriced mid-engined washing machine?

9 April 2010

Just to add a couple of bits - according to the Lotus website the 0-60 time is 6.0 seconds, the 0-62 time is 6.5 seconds. Perhaps 2nd gear tops out around 60mph and thus requires a gear change for 62? Combined fuel consumption is quoted at 45mpg - now an NA VVT engine often gets reasonably close to the quoted figures (all Honda and Toyota engines I've driven get close, my wife's Nissan isn't too far off) whereas there are a huge number of comments on forums about poor real world fuel economy of the turbosupercharged VAG engine both in 160 and 180 states of tune.

9 April 2010

[quote Dan McNeil v2] A sports car is not just about speed.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more.

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