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21 July 2010

Prince Charles is planning to shut off The Mall in London for a car show of environmentally friendly vehicles.

The Prince of Wales’s Start festival will run from 5-15 September, celebrating sustainable lifestyles and including “everything from buildings and gardens to food”, according to Roger Saul, the man in charge of the motoring exhibits.

The event will kick off with a ‘race’ from Glasgow to London between the Prince’s train (run on recycled chip fat) and a fleet of clean cars.

Entry to the Start festival is £15, but the car display in The Mall on 12 September is free.

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il sole 22 July 2010

Re: Prince Charles plans motor show

Straight Six Man wrote:
Death to modernism! Long live classical elegance, Gothic splendour
er, hello, in their day these were just as shocking as modern architecture is now
Straight Six Man wrote:
Arts & Crafts inventiveness
er, how can you celebrate one thing and berate the exact same forces which drive modern inventiveness??? so i guess the gherkin in london is a monsterous carbunkle in your eyes is it? or how about the milau viaduct in the south of france??? i'm afraid charles is a clueless old guffer who should just remember that the english civil war put pay to the interference of the crown in the state's activities!! he should just shut up and go back to his veggie plot.

Do It 22 July 2010

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Straight Six Man wrote:

Do It wrote:

Straight Six Man wrote:

Do It wrote:

Straight Six Man wrote:
rotten to the core with Freemasonry (as big an evil as the Taliban IMO).

I'm a Freemason.

Why is the craft corrupt? Why are we as evil as the Taliban?

Much of what we do is charitable. Have you ever been a Freemason?

I've never encountered ANYTHING corrupt or evil in Freemasonary. We don't sit around planning world domination you know. We plan things like raising money for a new roof for the lodge, we tell dirty jokes and we simply enjoy each others company by meeting on the level. I can meet and socialise with people I trust and who live by a certain moral code commensurate with my own, nothing more really.

Please desist from such nonsense, you obviously do not understand Freemasonary at all.

I've worked among enough Freemasons to tell you that Freemasonry is used to corrupt the judiciary, bypass or pervert democratic processes, decide who gets what work, who gets fired, etc... I've worked among masons all my life and I'm heartily sick of them. I've never met a decent one yet. Apologies to you - you seem a decent chap, and every rule has its exceptions.

I'm astonished.

That may have been the case 30 years ago, it is not anymore, the Craft has moved on, it had to.

Any Freemason found to have abused his position within the Craft for his own profit would be blackballed immediately, it is most certainly not a way of feathering one's own nest.

I have never used a hobby in my professional life, I have worked in national government now for 17 years and not one of my colleagues would know I am a Freemason, I've never received the handshake either.

If you'd care to name some names, I will ensure they are passed on as I am not evil and I am not corrupt. I keep the company of some damned good blokes though.

I'm astonished.

Too many to name - but are you aware of the case of the little girl in Aberdeenshire who has been the victim of sex abuse? Her mother tried to move away, rescue her from it, but the girl's father, the abuser, was a Mason, and used Mason friends in the police, social services and even the judiciary to keep the abuse going. The mother's brother, the victim's uncle, was found dead in suspicious circumstances and is widely thought to have been murdered - but this has been covered up as accidental or natural causes or somesuch. It's been covered enough in the news - and it's not the only such case, either.

Now, I haven't had to deal with any Freemasons for a few years now - I do hope that a new generation is taking over and bringing a new openness to the Craft, rooting out such abuse of the system.

I'm not aware of the case you refer too.

But the fact he was a Freemason is clutching at straws, any conspiracy to pervert the course of justice would be jumped on from a great height by the cops and the judiciary when exposed.

Moreover, that's how these rings work isn't it? Building on that point, the truth is likely to be that people like this are drawn to organisations like ours because there is a perception that we give people a veneer of respectability. Such people wouldn't do such things.

More often than not we are able to vet such miscreants out but like EVERY organisation, one or two get through.

The cops, civil service and the church are a few such organisations with similar issues.

We don't label them evil do we? Nor should we Freemasons.

Straight Six Man 22 July 2010

Re: Prince Charles plans motor show

Do It wrote:

Straight Six Man wrote:

Do It wrote:

Straight Six Man wrote:
rotten to the core with Freemasonry (as big an evil as the Taliban IMO).

I'm a Freemason.

Why is the craft corrupt? Why are we as evil as the Taliban?

Much of what we do is charitable. Have you ever been a Freemason?

I've never encountered ANYTHING corrupt or evil in Freemasonary. We don't sit around planning world domination you know. We plan things like raising money for a new roof for the lodge, we tell dirty jokes and we simply enjoy each others company by meeting on the level. I can meet and socialise with people I trust and who live by a certain moral code commensurate with my own, nothing more really.

Please desist from such nonsense, you obviously do not understand Freemasonary at all.

I've worked among enough Freemasons to tell you that Freemasonry is used to corrupt the judiciary, bypass or pervert democratic processes, decide who gets what work, who gets fired, etc... I've worked among masons all my life and I'm heartily sick of them. I've never met a decent one yet. Apologies to you - you seem a decent chap, and every rule has its exceptions.

I'm astonished.

That may have been the case 30 years ago, it is not anymore, the Craft has moved on, it had to.

Any Freemason found to have abused his position within the Craft for his own profit would be blackballed immediately, it is most certainly not a way of feathering one's own nest.

I have never used a hobby in my professional life, I have worked in national government now for 17 years and not one of my colleagues would know I am a Freemason, I've never received the handshake either.

If you'd care to name some names, I will ensure they are passed on as I am not evil and I am not corrupt. I keep the company of some damned good blokes though.

I'm astonished.

Too many to name - but are you aware of the case of the little girl in Aberdeenshire who has been the victim of sex abuse? Her mother tried to move away, rescue her from it, but the girl's father, the abuser, was a Mason, and used Mason friends in the police, social services and even the judiciary to keep the abuse going. The mother's brother, the victim's uncle, was found dead in suspicious circumstances and is widely thought to have been murdered - but this has been covered up as accidental or natural causes or somesuch. It's been covered enough in the news - and it's not the only such case, either.

Now, I haven't had to deal with any Freemasons for a few years now - I do hope that a new generation is taking over and bringing a new openness to the Craft, rooting out such abuse of the system.