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Porsche GB to take legal action to quash new congestion charge scheme
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19 February 2008

Porsche GB has announced that it will take Transport for London to court in an attempt to have the new congestion-charging scheme stopped.Andy Goss, Managing Director of Porsche GB, maintains that the new C-Charge is "simply unjust. Thousands of car owners driving a huge range of cars will be hit by a disproportionate tax which is clear will have a very limited effect on CO2 emissions.” Porsche has stated that it will write to the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, asking for a rethink on the new scheme. He must respond within 14 days stating that he will act on the request or Porsche GB will begin a judicial review against TFL.If the congestion charge plans go ahead in October, as planned, all cars producing over 225g/km of CO2 will be charged £25 per day.The 2.7-litre Cayman and Boxster are the cleanest Porsche models on sale, producing 222g/km, whilst the Cayenne Turbo tops the CO2 chart at 358g/km. However, a new Porsche hybrid system is due to go on sale in the Cayenne SUV in 2010, with a hybrid Panamera following not long after.And that's another reason Porsche wants to keep the current charging scheme, which sees hybrids gain automatic free entry to London. The new C-Charge scraps that rule and applies the charge solely on CO2 output. Cars producing less than 225g/km will be charged £8, whilst vehicles producing less than 120g/km go free. Plus, any cars with an engine capacity of 3.0-litres or over that are registered before 2001 will also receive the maximum £25 daily penalty.If legal action is taken by Porsche, it will be to prevent the new scheme going ahead, leaving the current scheme intact.

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JJBoxster 29 March 2008

Porsche v Bus - Toyota Prius v Hummer

Stevo 27 - What is more polluting. A Porsche or a Bendy-Ken-Bus? Studies show the new Bio-Fuel bus and normal diesel buses have little difference in fuel economy or overall CO2 emissions per passanger.

The public v private transport debate is a zero sum game. But politicians can't see past the chips on their shoulders that £250M a year on a Con-Zone scam, sorry scheme to achieve absolutely zero doesn't add up!

Transport for Londons own Con-Zone pollution figures show while car and van visits have declined 15-30% the taxis and buses have increased 15-25% to fill the void and both the pollution and congestion levels haven't change one iota since the scam was intorduced. Another zero sum game the politicians can't see. Alistair Darling is a Dunce don't we all know!

The British Government is now considering Toyota Prius's as Govt transport. So what is more 'green' a Toyota Prius or a Hummer?

Building a Toyota Prius hybrid actually causes more environmental damage than a Hummer (bad news for Red Kens hatred of Chelsea Tractors). How?

The hybrid Prius is in part driven by a battery which contains nickel. The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario in Canada. “The acid rain around Sudbury was so bad it destroyed all the plants,” said Canadian Greenpeace. The nickel plant is the source of all the nickel found in a Prius’ battery and Toyota purchases 1,000 tons annually. This 'bio-hazard' factory has spread sulfur dioxide across northern Ontario.

The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles and has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding area that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers.

This hybrid horror doesn’t end there. The nickel produced by this disastrous plant is shipped via massive container ships to the largest nickel refinery in Europe. From there, the nickel hops over to China to produce ‘nickel foam.’ From there, it goes to Japan. Finally, the completed batteries are shipped to Europe or back to the US, finalizing the around-the-world trip required to produce a single Prius battery.

When you pool together all the combined energy it takes to drive and build a Toyota Prius, the flagship car of energy fanatics and Hollywood high life it takes almost 50% more energy than a Hummer - the Prius’s total nemesis.

A study by CNW Marketing called “Dust to Dust,” the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle. The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles. The Hummer costs a more prudent $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it.

Alternatively compared to the paltry 45mpg of the Prius you could buy a VW Polo diesel that does 75mpg. Maybe the British Govt and Red Ken needs to reconsider their tax scams, sorry schemes and tax the smug hybrid owners and give green concessions to all the poor over-taxed diesel and Porsche drivers!

stevo27 29 March 2008

Re: Porsche to sue over C-Charge

The point here surely is that a cars CO2 emissions doesn't tell the whole story on their own. Who pollutes more - Mr Mondeo man driving 25,000 miles or Mr Porsche man driving 5,000?

I can accept a charge based on usage of roads but not simply because I prefer a nicer/faster car of choice. Trouble is usage charge means monitoring which means more state control mechanisms which means less freedom ................

JJBoxster 27 March 2008

Re: Porsche to sue over C-Charge

Loather makes 2 good points at the beginning of this thread. That Porsche are acting against Ken/TFL because it could be the thin end of the wedge for other European cities to also go Con Charge. But it's not only Germanys luxury jobs under threat but he UK's too (Jag, LR, Bentley, Aston, Rolls).

What is clear with both the eco/climate debate and more so with the smoking ban (passive smoking is not a health concern despite the Govt propoganda) is that businesses are shutting down left right and centre and the Govt doesn't care and turns a blind eye over 1000's of people losing their livelihoods (100's of small pubs have shut with more threatened and 50% of Bingo Halls face closure).

Similarly many businesses have complained in London about lower foot falls and customers (and suppliers) avoiding London as a place to do business or shop. Does Ken/TFL pay the slightest bit of attention?

The other point Loather highlights is car manufacturers facing 'fleet' fines if their range doesn't meet EEC emission targets. That's a bit like politicians insisting Gucci makes a range bum bags for hitch hikers - it's rediculous if not perverse.

Politicians are now interfering with, meddling and destroying businesses in ways unheard of in any known 'democracy' yet both the public and business seems to just accept it like passive lemmings. Porsche deserves huge credit for taking the first real step against these destructive Nazi-Nannies and I hope the rest of us soon stand up at the earliest opportunity.

Democracy and freedom is being dismantled at an alarming rate and for the most shoddy (if not deceiptful) of reasons!