Government reveals plans to limit HGV and bus useage of motorways
3 February 2010

New proposals from the government would aim to ban all buses and HGVs over 3.5 tonnes from using the outside lane of the motorway, as well as restricting all HGVs to a 60mph limit.

The Department for Transport has started a consultation that it claims would “simplify the motorway speed limits for buses, coaches and heavy goods vehicles.”

One of the proposals is to prohibit HGVs between 3.5 and 7.5 tonnes from using the right hand lane of motorways with three or more lanes.

The ban would also extend to all buses, minibuses and coaches with more than eight passenger seats.

Speed limits would be changed so that all HGVs would have to obey a 60mph limit, whether or not they have a limiter. Buses and coaches would have a 65mph limit.

Currently newer HGVs have a speed limiter set 56mph, while older HGVs under 7.5 tonnes without a limiter can travel at the 70mph national limit.

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3 February 2010

The idea seems to make sense to me but maybe they could go one step further. In Germany HGVs need special permission to be out and about on a Sunday. Makes for great Sunday drivng without getting stuck behind an artic.

Oh and for all the doom and gloom merchants the German economy has not collapsed as a result of this restriction which has been in place for years. On a less positive note they are talking about increasing the size of trucks there to 50 tonnes which makes for a very very long vehicle.

3 February 2010

As a Bus Operator I think that this is a great idea. All HGV's and PCV's (over 16 seats) are already banned from that lane. HGV's are restricted to 56mph and PCV's to 62mph so this will hit those idiots that hire 3.5 to 7.5 tonners and certain minibuses and drive like maniacs...

3 February 2010

[quote Straff]All HGV's and PCV's (over 16 seats) are already banned from that lane. [/quote]

Appart from National Express of course - I saw one of their coaches in the outside lane of the M25 recently.

They should also be banned from using the outside lane on large sections (mainly uphill sections) of two lane dual carriagways. I'm sure we've all been stuck behind a lorry for mile after mile while it trys to overtake uphill. It works on the continent so I'm sure it would work here too.

3 February 2010

[quote Lee23404]They should also be banned from using the outside lane on large sections (mainly uphill sections) of two lane dual carriagways. I'm sure we've all been stuck behind a lorry for mile after mile while it trys to overtake uphill. It works on the continent so I'm sure it would work here too.[/quote]

I wish it did! there are various trials here such as the several miles uphill drag on the A42 but in place of trucks there are endless car drivers who only do 56.00001mph in the outside lane wasting the clear road, they never move over either. Before it starts there is a mad flurry of HGV's overtaking before they get trapped in it and at the end all hell breaks loose as frustrated HGV's barge out and start endless overtakes, pushing cars caught in the midst out the way. It needs applying the whole road from M42 to M1.

3 February 2010

[quote The Apprentice]I wish it did! there are various trials here such as the several miles uphill drag on the A42 [/quote]

I used that stretch of road during the trials a couple of years ago and you're right it didn't work because most of the lorry drivers ignored it and there was no inforcement. They operate a similar system in Italy and it seems to work there.

3 February 2010

Motorways in the Netherlands , which are nearly all two-laners, ban HGVs from 7am to 7pm from using the outside lane.

It works ...

3 February 2010

Driving is so crap, sorry just been through an empty town and all I came across were two artic quarry trucks going towards each other playing argy bargy on a tight bend, ignoring my presence, I am feeling grumpy.

3 February 2010

[quote 230SL]

Driving is so crap.

[/quote]

I agree. Used to love it, now it's just something that has to be endured.

I do tend to start enjoying it again though once I've left blighty and arrived on the continent.

4 February 2010

Anything over 2000kg should be excluded from Lane 3, or electronically restricted to 60mph.

Yes, that's directed at you Mr Q7 on the M3 northbound tonight....

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4 February 2010

[quote BriMarsh]Anything over 2000kg should be excluded from Lane 3,[/quote]

Bollox! Mercedes Sprinters, Ford Transits, Fiat Ducatos and Renault Traffics are (or rather were before the new ones were limited) the fastest vehicles on the motorway. Get out of their way, they have work to do.

When driving on late Sunday nights down to London after a weekend in Scotland (late 90s early noughties) I used to "hide" amongst a group of big courier vans in the hope that if seen the police would take one of them rather than me (bit like birds in a flock). 90 up the hills 99 down all the way.

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