BMW confident it can reduce 318d's CO2 output to escape London's emissions based congestion charge
25 April 2008

BMW is confident of producing a 3-series model which would be exempt from the emissions based London congestion charge.The current 318d produces only 123g/km of CO2, and BMW are convinced they can meet the technical challenge of finding the 3g/km they need to beat the charge. They have already succeeded in altering the X5 3.0d to produce less than the 225g/km upper limit – conceivably saving a consistent commuter well over £3000 a year under the new system.From 27 October, any car driving into the centre of London that omits more than 120g/km of CO2 will be required to pay the £8 daily rate, while those beneath the threshold will be exempt. Cars producing more than 225g/km will face a £25 fee for entering the capital.The other financial benefit of cutting emissions is a reduction in Vehicle Excise Duty bills. Owners of the X5 3.0d already pay £205 instead of £300 – a 3-series model emitting less than 120g/km would cost just £35 a year to tax in Band B.BMW actually produces a model frugal enough to qualify for this category already – the three and five-door 118d. Recent recipient of World Green Car of the Year at the New York International Auto Show, the 118d uses BMW’s EfficientDynamics technology, such as Brake Energy Regeneration and Auto Stop Start, to produce CO2 emissions of just 119g/km.

Nick Cackett

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25 April 2008

So what happens when the centre of London becomes congested with low-emissions vehicles?

25 April 2008

What were BMW thinking?

Here is a car that will never sell - it's a flawed idea.

A BMW driver with a moral compass? Not likely - it'll be sold on the basis of reduced tax and not it's green credentials.


25 April 2008

[quote scummyplum]

What were BMW thinking?

Here is a car that will never sell - it's a flawed idea.

A BMW driver with a moral compass? Not likely - it'll be sold on the basis of reduced tax and not it's green credentials.

[/quote]

So will it sell or won't it ? Make your mind up. I think it will. People don't like paying tax and do like BMWs.

25 April 2008

[quote James Read]

[quote scummyplum]

What were BMW thinking?

Here is a car that will never sell - it's a flawed idea.

A BMW driver with a moral compass? Not likely - it'll be sold on the basis of reduced tax and not it's green credentials.

[/quote]

So will it sell or won't it ? Make your mind up. I think it will. People don't like paying tax and do like BMWs.

[/quote]

James Read - get you - you are so assertive.

I don't like either things actually - and I don't like you.

Kiss kiss.

25 April 2008

I really wish you'd learn to write English and express yourself properly. I can't understand what you're saying half the time. You don't like "either things" ? Eh ? We're talking about one car. D'oh !

PS.....I rejoice in the fact that you don't like me. Did I upset you ?

25 April 2008

[quote scummyplum]

What were BMW thinking?

Here is a car that will never sell - it's a flawed idea.

A BMW driver with a moral compass? Not likely - it'll be sold on the basis of reduced tax and not it's green credentials.


[/quote]

Moral compasses are overrated. So is BMW drivers' rep for self-obsession…..(well, actually I'm not so sure about the latter, since as an aspiring BMW driver - probably my next car -, I have been focusing a little too much on myself for comfort recently).

25 April 2008

It will sell like hot cakes.

Most of these cars are bought new as company cars. 120 g/km or less means 13% not 18% tax charge. What's that, nearly 30% less tax to pay?

Doh

If BMW can deliver a sub 121 g/km 3-series, then they'll need a new plant to make them in to keep up with demand


26 April 2008

[quote James Read]

I really wish you'd learn to write English and express yourself properly. I can't understand what you're saying half the time. You don't like "either things" ? Eh ? We're talking about one car. D'oh !

PS.....I rejoice in the fact that you don't like me. Did I upset you ?

[/quote]

You could not upset me if you me if you tried - you are just too funny for that - I still don't like you though but I'm sure you'll get over it. Those with little or no self awareness of the hilarity they give others always do.

'Either' refers to tax and BMW's - a point you made - perhaps it's your inability to communicate with others that causes the reaction some of the fellow forumisters give you? Just a thought.

Rejoice - rejoice - rejoice.

Straw poll: How long before he posts a pithy response as either James Read or JJCockstar?

Discuss.

26 April 2008

[quote Autocar]The current 318d produces only 123g/km of CO2, and BMW are convinced they can meet the technical challenge of finding the 3g/km they need to beat the charge. [/quote]

Im confused, if its that easy for them to reduce to co2 further then why didnt they do it in the first place? Same thing happened with the 118d.

26 April 2008

[quote scummyplum]

You could not upset me if you me if you tried - you are just too funny for that - I still don't like you though but I'm sure you'll get over it. Those with little or no self awareness of the hilarity they give others always do.

'Either' refers to tax and BMW's - a point you made - perhaps it's your inability to communicate with others that causes the reaction some of the fellow forumisters give you? Just a thought.

Rejoice - rejoice - rejoice.

Straw poll: How long before he posts a pithy response as either James Read or JJCockstar?

Discuss.

[/quote]

You sound upset. Especially when you said that I ruin this forum. That sounded upset to me. Yes, you are upset.

I am glad that I make you laugh. You make us all laugh too but the difference is that we are laughing at you rather than with you (when we can work out what you're talking about); its a sympathy thing.

I'm glad that I now understand what on earth it is you were talking about in your earlier post. You managed to get your point across is just two posts. That's not at all bad for you. You kept "on topic" too. Well done indeed. Next week, maybe we'll work on punctuation and see how you do. See if we can't replace all those hyphens with some nice semi-colons eh ? You haven't used the word "anticedence" for a while. You've never used it correctly, of course.

Toodle pip.

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