Alfa is planning a replacement for its now defunct 166 executive saloon
14 August 2008

Autocar has learned that Alfa Romeo is planning to replace the defunct 166 with a new large saloon – and company bosses are determined to source a rear-wheel drive platform for the car.

The car would act as a flagship model for the range, although Alfa’s new policy of naming rather than numbering models means it’s unlikely to carry the ‘169’ tag that previous speculation had suggested.

One option is to use the Maserati Quattroporte chassis, although the expense of this would limit potential sales volumes. But Fiat boss Sergio Marchionne has already suggested that the new big Alfa could be based around the Jaguar XF chassis.

That’s not as outlandish as it sounds. Fiat Auto has a close connection with Tata (which owns Jaguar) because boss Ratan Tata sits on the Fiat board. And we know that Fiat-Jaguar co-operation has been discussed at senior level, because Fiat’s finance arm will replace Ford Credit as the source of finance for JLR’s dealers.

This tie-up could go further. While Alfa using the Jaguar XF chassis makes perfect sense, Jaguar’s other world-class aluminium rear-drive platforms would also be the logical underpinnings for future versions of Fiat Auto’s flagship cars, the Maserati Quattroporte and Coupe models.

Will Powell

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14 August 2008

I know this is an "artist's impression", but this is an incredibly ugly car, with a hint of Subaru B9 Tribeca about the front.

Gerwyn

14 August 2008

Maserati or Jaguar platform - both options sounds good. The first is probably cheaper for Fiat, since the development was already made in-house, so bigger volumes would reduce costs for both Alfa Romeo and Maserati.

The computer-generated photo of the 169 looks promising too.

To my opinion - ditch the numeric system, and go back to nostalgic Alfa names. It would do wonders to the car's image and desirability.

14 August 2008

[quote GerwynPH]I know this is an "artist's impression", but this is an incredibly ugly car, with a hint of Subaru B9 Tribeca about the front.
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Agreed. If it looks anything like the photo it wouldn't sell, at all, ever.

14 August 2008

Are you joking?? If it looks like that, I'd happily buy one with an Alfa 75 chassis!

14 August 2008

I agree it looks stunning - a real agressive front end and slender body. But it is only an artists imperession so lets not get too carried away.

It is people not understanding new adventurous designs that leads manufacturers to build a load of dull looking clones. Open your minds!

I think it has been said for sometime that the next large Alfa will be based on a Jaguar platform so I am not sure that this is really news!

14 August 2008

[quote GazzyP]It is people not understanding new adventurous designs that leads manufacturers to build a load of dull looking clones. Open your minds![/quote]

The 159 is stunning. The MiTo is ugly, using a stupid generic nose from the 8C. On the 8C it causes trouser accidents; slapped onto every Alfa design would be stupid.

14 August 2008

I remember seeing some of the MiTo artist impressions, certainly did not prepare us for the Austin A30 that emerged. The idea of a Jaguar/Alfa-fiat Group tie up or chassis sharing is no bad thing, if it leads to a Maserati based on the XJ aluminum chassis or a sports car Alfa or Maser based on the XK in return if a 'E' type can be co developed with a Alfa cousin why not. It might be worth Mr. Tata looking at the current Lancias, would not take too much to graft on a Rover grill in place of the Lancia item and have a volume seller the new Delta could be a starter and even the Thema weird as it is would look cool with a rover badge!

14 August 2008

Hmmm..... interesting proposition.

Now thinking a little further ahead, development of a rear drive X type chassis that could be used on a 159. A chassis that could be shortened to may be take in a 147/9 replacement......

It would be nice to see a manufacturer (or two as the case may be) other than BMW with a complete rear drive range.

 

 

It's all about the twisties........

14 August 2008

[quote julianphillips]Are you joking??  If it looks like that, I'd happily buy one with an Alfa 75 chassis![/quote] I'm with Julio.

15 August 2008

I think it looks fantastic, but of course, designs like this one will divide opinion. In the executive class, I think it's vital that the car has a strong identity and this design definitely possesses just that.

A Jag XF chassis would be fantastic too, I think!

Cannot understand the model numbering system. Why skip generations? From 164 to 166 then to 169? At least Peugeot are faithful to their model numbering sequence with the exception of the ugly-duckling 309 ........

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