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19 April 2010

Toyota has agreed to pay a maximum $16.375 million (£10.69m) fine to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) for failing to inform the US department for almost four months about a sticking accelerator fault in some of its cars.

However, the firm has denied any wrongdoing and said it "did not try to hide a defect to avoid dealing with a safety problem”. Toyota said it was agreeing to pay the fine to “avoid a protracted dispute and possible litigation” and hoped that by paying the fine, it could begin “a new, more transparent chapter" with the NHTSA.

US transportation secretary Ray LaHood said, “By failing to report known safety problems as it is required to do under the law, Toyota put consumers at risk.

“I am pleased that Toyota has accepted responsibility for violating its legal obligations to report any defects promptly. We are continuing to investigate whether the company has lived up to all its disclosure obligations."

The fine was the maximum allowed by US law. The Detroit News has claimed that if the $16.375m cap didn’t exist, the NHTSA could have charged Toyota up to $6000 (£3900) per vehicle recalled, which would have meant a $13.8 billion (£9.013bn) fine.

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19 April 2010

I am glad they got fined, sick of seeing their ugly crappy cars on the road. Now 600,000 of their minivans are being recalled, and their lexus SUV is withdrawn for sale as it poses a safety risk. My sister owned the minivan that is being recalled now, the van fell apart piece by piece with less than 35,000 miles on the odo. including dying on a bridge with a frantic call from my sister.

19 April 2010

Toyota will recover from this as others have,its just they had further to fall.i drove Toyota's for over twenty years and my mum still has one.totally reliable and i would buy another in the future.

19 April 2010

[quote frankpcb] dying on a bridge with a frantic call from my sister.[/quote]

Was the bridge falling down?

20 April 2010

If anything it should teach them that they cant make and sell any old rubbish on the back of their reputation.

Somone in our family had an Avensis estate from new, and whilst it proved reasonably reliable save for one or two little niggles, he actually got rid of it after only 18 months because he said it was the most boring car he'd ever owned and whilst perfectly competent, he just didnt enjoy owning it. In the end he changed it for a 300c touring and he cant stop talking about how much he loves it.

Which sort of highlights Toyotas problem. Toyotas are made for people who dont really care too much about cars, just wanting cheap "reliable" no excitement transport. But if they can't trade on the back of their reliability, they havent got too much left to offer. It certainly isnt their awe inspiring design.

20 April 2010

The point is they can still trade on the back of their reliability, they are extremely reliable even last year and this year, i expect owner surveys to agree with me. It's only a perceived myth in America that there is actually any problem, created by the government and the media, and the public lol.

Toyota are being very nice and considerate to still value the American market, but i'm sure the Japanese culture of politeness and commitment will reach an abuse too far and something in relations will break. To me it's extremely racist and almost pre war cold shouldering by America.

20 April 2010

Very clever , the US Government can't afford to bail-out GM on their own so they are raiding Toyotas' piggy bank.

21 April 2010

[quote fhp11]Toyotas are made for people who dont really care too much about cars, just wanting cheap "reliable" no excitement transport. [/quote]

We need to scotch that sort of general cliche.

Their is a difference between owners who like driving, and owners who don't yet want a car that is reliable, offers good mpg, and doesn't cripple them with service charges. Toyota have that philosophy almost down to a fine craft. Buyers of new Toyotas, in the main, are looking for peace of mind, as are those who buy Asian built cars with five or seven year warranties.

In other words, such owners do care, only they are less obsessed with status and vehicle presence than those who buy premium brands or or the badge snobbery.


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