Steve Cropley
23 May 2012

What is it?



This is the exclusive first drive review of the revolutionary and endearing Murray T25. Designed and built at Gordon Murray Design studio-workshop near Guildford, the T25 is a tiny city car powered by a much-modified three-cylinder 660cc Smart engine.

It is designed to demonstrate some typical Murray-style ingenuity in packaging, but most of all to demonstrate a new and extremely efficient method of car manufacture, called iStream.

Read our exclusive first drive review of the electric T27

The T25’s one-plus-two seat layout makes a comfortable city vehicle for three, even though it has a road footprint no more than a quarter that of a big saloon. Ditch the passengers and the T25’s seats fold individually forward into a dead-flat position to provide the carrying space of a small estate.
 


Murray wants the T25 to be the “next big thing". According to the former F1 race car designer and the man responsible for the McLaren F1 supercar back in 1993, “there isn’t a city in the world that wouldn’t benefit from a critical mass of these running about, because we all know how directly they can save resources and cut congestion.” 


What is it like?



The T25’s extreme city driving suitability starts with its size. Because it’s quirkily short and narrow tracked, the ‘T’s turning circle undercuts that of a London taxi by a good third; it’s hard to believe that it has been proven to have proper B-segment levels of crash safety.


Inside the cabin, you sit about 100mm higher than the driver of a big saloon, with all the visibility and feeling of security this brings. And it’s symmetrical, so you have panoramic vision on both sides. The sit-up driving position allows two passengers of normal proportions to sit closely but comfortably behind you, one on either side. 


To get in, you press the button on the remote-locking key fob. The clamshell-shaped front half of the car’s glasshouse swings majestically forward on gas struts, a compelling piece of street theatre. When fully forward, a low-sided tub is revealed, dominated by the driver’s central seat. Simply step in and sit down. 


When seated, you find your legs reach downwards to the pedals, and the steering wheel is two-thirds of a stretch away, framing an instrument pack that (but for its simplicity) recalls the cockpit architecture of a jet fighter.


Its modest but enthusiastic Smart engine (with special friction-reducing bore coatings for extra efficiency) produces 51bhp and flows with a non-Smart exhaust rasp to the rear wheels through a speeded-up, five-speed Smart-derived semi-auto gearbox, controlled by shift paddles but with a selectable auto mode for city crawling.



Turn the ignition key one click to the right, plant your clog on the central brake pedal, then thumb the starter button and the engine thrums into life. Press the button on the dash showing a forward arrow and you’ll select first (or the ‘A’ button if you prefer self-shifting mode), release the handbrake via a short lever by your right thigh, toe the accelerator gently and you’re away.
 


By the time you’ve travelled 20 yards, you’ll be reveling in the unique effects of light weight. This car weighs just 575kg, not much more than a big motorbike. It flows off the mark with an amazing lack of revs or effort. It may have a small engine, but there is absolutely no impression of it having to work hard to get you moving. The automatic clutch bites positively as you raise the revs and the car rolls willingly on its tall, skinny (not to mention affordable, light, soft-riding and space-saving) 145/70 tyres, mounted on light steel wheels.



By the time you’ve travelled 50 yards, you’ll have realized how easy it is to steer and position a car that is both very slim (not much more than half a normal car’s width) and exactly as wide to your right as it is to the left. 
 


All-round visibility is terrific, but there’s another important benefit of the elevated driving position: whereas in a low and cramped car with this tiny footprint you might feel intimidated by London’s press-on cabbies and ferociously driven white vans, in the T25 you feel like their equal, far enough above the ground to be easily seen, high enough in your car to meet them eyeball to eyeball. What is more, you’re so much more agile than anything you meet that you can jink out of trouble with a blip of throttle and a flick of the wrists.
 


You soon discover that the T25’s six-metre turning circle (delivered by an unassisted rack geared at four turns lock to lock) lets you turn in less space than a London cab. Such manoeuvrability amounts to a new form of freedom. You can throw U-turns in ridiculously confined spaces, especially when you’ve figured out how wide the T25 is – or isn’t. The outer edges of the prominent rear vision mirrors mark almost the exact boundaries of the car itself, but you can hardly believe it. For the first hour or so, you find yourself driving over little potholes and seams in the road, in order to judge exactly how close you can drive to obstacles. Even when you’ve got it, you can hardly believe it.



Hold the T25 flat and you’ll eventually get close to 90mph, although a better cruising speed is 60-65mph. The lightness means that the car can accelerate to 60mph in a modest 16.2sec, despite having only 51bhp to do the job.

The T25 chassis has admirable grip and roll stiffness. Even chucked into 30mph roundabouts at 45mph, it grips brilliantly. There might be a whiff of stabilising understeer, but by the time you notice it, cornering forces are trying to lever you out of your elevated ‘chair’.


Should I buy one?

At the moment you can’t but IF the T25 makes production it’ll certainly be a compelling proposition to combat the hustle and bustle of typical city driving conditions. You wouldn’t, however, choose a T25 for crossing continents, but it’ll make a reasonable motorway trip.



Murray T25



Price: £6000 (est); 0-62mph: 16.2sec; Top speed: 90mph; Economy: 74mpg; CO2: 86g/km; Kerb weight: 575kg; Engine: 3cyls, in line, 660cc, petrol; Installation: Rear, transverse, RWD; Power: 51bhp at 7000rpm;  Torque: 42lb ft at 4000rpm; Gearbox: 5-spd robotised manual

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More money needed?

51 weeks 5 days ago

The reality here is that you're "testing" what is probably a million pound prototype that's a world away from being a production reality.

First a backer / manufacturer must be found, then a production facility built, type approval gained, deals put in place to buy in engine transmission and other parts - and then the car will have to be marketed through some kind of dealer network with servicing and repair facilities.  I can't see this happening any time soon.

I don't doubt that this is a very interesting design with some novel and inspired features, but I can't see any commercial backer being prepared to take the risk.

No doubt this "test" has been arranged to achieve further publicity for the project and possibly squeeze more development funds from existing or new backers.

Personally I'd like to see the project succeed, but the odds must be stacked high against it.

Murray T25

51 weeks 5 days ago

Mr Cropley seems to have fallen in love with this whatever the drawbacks. A clever idea and a far better projected price than say a Renault Twizy, not to say practicality. It would be interesting to read about the T27 electric version.

I hope that Murray manages to find a suitable manufacturer, a company that has the same "thinking-outside-the-box" that he obviously has, good luck to him.

Missing my Prius - need a new car.

R32

Beware Of The Elks

51 weeks 5 days ago

With the high seating position in such a tall car and a very small footprint I'd be worried about an elk running out in front of me.... the centre of gravity probably being worringly high.  I could however see this car catching on in the Far East, China in particular or India but not in image-conscious Britain.  There are better all-round city cars out there that are less of a compromise I think.

I wonder how this car would

51 weeks 5 days ago

I wonder how this car would fair in a crash?  There are tests of smart fourtwos (the small 2 seater) on youtube.  When crashed against another car the results arent pretty.  In some they fly up in the air and flip over.  Other normal cars dont do this.  For instance, Automotor and Sport also crashed tested a VW Polo.  It looks like you could walk away from that accident.  In an identical smart fourtwo crash test, the car flips over.  You would get very serious injuries.

Strange review.........

51 weeks 5 days ago

Autocar wrote:

This car weighs just 575kg, not much more than a big motorbike.

Well, that's a lie. A very "big motorbike" may have a mass of 330kg, that's 245kg difference, or 74% extra.

Autocar wrote:

The lightness means that the car can accelerate to 60mph in a modest 16.2sec, despite having only 51bhp to do the job.

You're trying to pronounce this as some kind of an achievement, when in reality it is a failing. The least powerful Fiat 500 (69 bhp & 865kg) hits 62mph from rest in 12.9 seconds and seats 4.

As for the car itself, if the price does turn out to be just £6,000 then that could be the deal clincher for many people.

this murray t25 is a very

51 weeks 5 days ago

this murray t25 is a very innovative small car. And could probably find numerous backers in guess where ? (begins with c and rhymes with hyna)

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That was pretty cool.

51 weeks 5 days ago

That was pretty cool. Smile

Still not convinced by this

51 weeks 5 days ago

Well if they can flog them for £6k they may actually shift some . Thing is how much of that figure is pie in the sky when there is no sign of any backers . Hardly a looker is it and it still has about as much weather proofing as a Renault Twizy when you get in and out of it .

8/10 for engineering 2/10 for kerb appeal .

Granted it could work in the far east but so do tuk tuks .

What is the point! For £1700

51 weeks 5 days ago

What is the point! For £1700 more you can have an extra seat, a boot and everything else a normal car has, I love these types of cars like the Mia and the twizy but this one does not make sence!

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Am I the only person who

51 weeks 5 days ago

Am I the only person who thinks it looks absolutely ridiculous?? I mean, the Twizy I get and think it looks quite cool, but this??? why is Cropley so overly keen on it??

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