Small mid-engined, rear-drive successor to the Honda S2000 is likely to be a hybrid

Honda is preparing a dramatic return to sports cars with a small mid-engined, rear-drive successor to the Honda S2000 - and it's likely to be a hybrid. The car is believed to be a cross between the S2000 roadster, phased out last year, and the original Honda Beat mini-car of 1991. Engineers are said to be working on the car at Honda's R&D centre at Tochigi, north of Tokyo.

Honda's design chief, Nobuki Ebisawa, hinted to Autocar late last year that, despite the decision to axe its F1 team and cancel the next-generation NSX, there was a long-term plan to develop a hybrid with greater performance than Honda's only remaining sporty model, the CR-Z.

"That car is only one shape of Honda's hybrid sports cars in the current age," he said.

Proof that the project has since been picked up has emerged in Japanese patent applications. They outline plans for a roadster using a subframe and parts from current cars but adding technology, reducing the kerb weight and cutting production costs. This points to the use of aluminium, a material that Ebisawa has admitted is a likely feature of future models.

The car is expected to be based on a modified version of the Jazz platform.

The patent refers to "an engine being fitted to a centre frame", which means mid-engined and rear-wheel drive. The patent does not outline what type of powerplant would be used, but Honda's current policy rules out a pure combustion engine solution and a hybrid remains the most likely option.

Using a larger petrol engine than the CR-Z's unit - and gearing the electric motor more towards performance than economy - could give the car the sprinting ability to match the S2000's 0-62mph time of 6.0sec, particularly if aluminium is used to reduce the kerb weight.

Mounting the two motors amidships would help to match the weight distribution of the S2000, which, despite having its engine in the front, offered a 50/50 balance. Honda already has the ability to fit a manual transmission alongside a hybrid powertrain, too; the CR-Z uses such a set-up.

Honda's creation is unlikely to appear before 2014, so it will be beaten to market by the next phase of Toyota's sports cars, which includes a small coupe that is due in early 2013.

Known in Japan as "mini-FT-86", the two-door Toyota is based on the rear-drive hot hatchback concept that was shown by GRMN (Gazoo Racing Meister of Nurburgring) at the Tokyo Auto Salon in January. It's unlikely to match the Honda's green credentials, though, because its powerplant is almost certain to be a regular 1.5-litre petrol unit.

The full story of the car is in Autocar magazine, on sale tomorrow (Wednesday).

Peter Lyon

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22 June 2010

I was interested until the hybrid word was mentioned, and then i thought of the box of crap CRZ and got very bored very quickly.

22 June 2010

The artist impression looks like the Honda Beat!

22 June 2010

[quote Vidge 123]box of crap CRZ[/quote]

Have you driven one?

22 June 2010

[quote Vidge 123]box of crap CRZ[/quote]

Hmm such a small minded and pathetic comment...

But, back to topic, I hope Honda give this the performance figures they are quoting... It's about time they started cracking on with the S2000 replacement - just hope this car will get somewhere near to matching that car's driving experience. If so, hybrid or not, they will have a winner...

22 June 2010

[quote Vidge 123]crap CRZ[/quote]

You need to drive one before you give a throwaway negative comment like that.

I like the sound of a new S2000, but hopefully it looks better than the picture. That kind of looks like a Peugeot.

22 June 2010

Hybrid V-TEC interesting...

22 June 2010

[quote artill]

[quote Vidge 123]box of crap CRZ[/quote]

Have you driven one?

[/quote]

Well I have driven one, and I was decidely underwhelmed. I like the sound of this new sports car, but Honda will have to try harder than the CRZ to attract me.

22 June 2010

[quote McJohn]Well I have driven one, and I was decidely underwhelmed. I like the sound of this new sports car, but Honda will have to try harder than the CRZ to attract me.[/quote]

Me too. It had its good points, it was pointy and had a great gear change, but didnt excite me. The engine particularly didnt have enough about it. But i wouldnt describe it as 'a box of crap'. And i think if you want to make a sweeping statement it would be helpful to add some reasoning, not just 'its a hybrid so it must by rubbish'.

If Honda can add some sparkle to either this S2000 replacementis or a subsequent CR-Z they should have something impresive

22 June 2010

[quote eXceed]Hybrid V-TEC interesting...
[/quote]

I'm not au fait with how the electric motor affects the torque curve of a hybrid motor: would it provide low/mid-range urge to compliment a V-Tec's top-end?

That would be interesting...

22 June 2010

[quote Johnnytheboy]

I'm not au fait with how the electric motor affects the torque curve of a hybrid motor: would it provide low/mid-range urge to compliment a V-Tec's top-end?

That would be interesting...

[/quote]

Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking! Can't wait to see how this pans out :)

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