Saab boss says he is in talks with other manufacturers about sharing a new small car platform

Saab CEO Victor Muller has confirmed his company is in talks with other manufacturers about sharing technology for a new small car platform.

The platform, Muller told the Bloomberg news agency, would be used to underpin a spiritual successor to the Saab 92 model that launched more than 60 years ago.

Muller declined to comment on which manufacturers he was in negotiations with, although he did say the new 92 would have the tear drop shape of the original.

“Discussions are already ongoing [with other manufacturers],” said Muller. “That will be on my plate for the next 100 days.”

Muller revealed to Autocar earlier this year that the new 92 would be a “super-cool” new supermini and had been inspired by the relationship between the latest Mini has and the Issigonis original.

He also said he “works with Saab designers every day” on the 92 project and carries the latest renderings when he travels on business.

The car is unlikely to be seen before 2013.

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28 May 2010

I wish them the best of luck - any enthusiast will be glad to have Saab back making really distinctive cars.

28 May 2010

Best wishes for Saab, but they should speed up the whole thing !

28 May 2010

I agree as well but I guess they want to get it right opposed to just rush something out. Theres the all new 9-5 and then I guess the 9-4x is going to be released in that period between now and the 9-2. I hope they at least show a concept to wet our aperites.

28 May 2010

[quote JordanB2710]

I agree as well but I guess they want to get it right opposed to just rush something out. Theres the all new 9-5 and then I guess the 9-4x is going to be released in that period between now and the 9-2. I hope they at least show a concept to wet our aperites.

[/quote] I agree. It is more important for Muller to re-build SAAB's reputation than to get a new car out and do a rushed job.

28 May 2010

[quote Autocar]Muller declined to comment on which manufacturers he was in negotiations with,[/quote]

Vauxhall perhaps?

28 May 2010

[quote Quattro369]

[quote Autocar]Muller declined to comment on which manufacturers he was in negotiations with,[/quote]

Vauxhall perhaps?[/quote] No chance. SAAB has had "Vauxhall based" slung at them for the past 20 years. With VAG looking to become the No.1 producer, Renault/Mercedes sat in the same pot and FIAT with more brands than they know what to do with. BMW is out there on their own looking for someone to bolster the new Mini architecture. An entry-level SAAB could generate 60-70 units a year. (That's basically what the 9-3 used to sell before the FC hit in 2008)

Form a personal point of view, although all three brands share the same premium market I don't think someone shopping for a mini or a FWD BMW, will be looking at a SAAB. So BMW don't have to worry about cannibalisation.

28 May 2010

[quote Autocar]Saab CEO Victor Muller has confirmed his company is in talks with other manufacturers about sharing technology for a new small car platform.[/quote] He's already said that GM are their "technology partner", so it'll be based on the Corsa platform.

29 May 2010

[quote blowerbentley][quote Autocar]Saab CEO Victor Muller has confirmed his company is in talks with other manufacturers about sharing technology for a new small car platform.[/quote] He's already said that GM are their "technology partner", so it'll be based on the Corsa platform.[/quote] The all new 9-3 was supposed to move onto GM's Delta platform but in a recent interview with Automotive news Victor Muller has stopped that. The reason is because the Delta architecture will be shared by over 20 different models. Using a GM platform for Victor Muller will not make a future SAAB unique enough. Although the new 9-5 and 9-4x will be based on GM architectures, there won't be a vast array of derivatives. Those platforms have also had input from SAAB from the beginning. It may explain why the Insignia can actually go around corners without masses of understeer. it explains why the Insignia has Turbocharged engines and the same AWD-system that was 1st debuted in the 9-3 TurboX.

With SAAB now re-developing the current 9-3 platform (which in itself only uses 40% of the original Epsilon architecture.) SAAB are creating their own I-P Architecture.

I'm not declaring my BMW partnership guess as the only solution but we can rule out any future GM based models that were not finished at the point of acquisition.

30 May 2010

I doubt a partnership with BMW is the first thing in SAAB's mind. Their cars are too different. BMW uses RWD. SAAB uses FWD. Audi/VW is a much more likely partner

1 June 2010

Would love to see SAAB flourishing again with cars like this suited to the Euro market , compact and distinct, this could be a great addition to their range but by the time they introduce this to the market, there will be a new MINI 2014 and BMWs fwd 1 series 2013, Audi's A1 will be established, like wise Alfa MiTo which its replacement is already due in 2013 and not including Merc/Nissan/Renault joint venture so new A class and its various bodystyles including sports car and Infiniti will probably have their versions, this will be a very crowded market with strong competition, SAAB needs to get this right from the beginning.

Although unlikely it's not improbable it could share the MINI platform, BMW's fwd 1 series will more than likely put a stop for any platform sharing but they have to get as much use out of this platfrom to ensure a good return. Even though BMW are competitors they do have a slightly differing customer base. If it's a European manufacturer then Peugeot/Citroen could be a good partner as they are not direct competitors and P/C do have the platforms ready made and a wealth of knowledge with fwd.

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