Schuey's former team-mate says Button's McLaren switch is 'mad'
8 January 2010

Eddie Irvine has controversially predicted that Jenson Button will come to regret his decision to quit the Brawn F1 squad and join Lewis Hamilton at McLaren.

Irvine, who was Michael Schumacher’s team-mate at Ferrari for four years from 1996 to 1999, said: “Jenson has entered the lion’s den. It was madness of him to move.

"I think he is going to get murdered. It’s the worst decision he [Jenson] could have made. The only reason I can think of is that he did not want to stay at Brawn with [Nico] Rosberg, who is not as highly rated as Lewis, but might be just as quick.

"Jenson may have thought that it's better to get beaten by Lewis than get beaten by Nico."

Irvine continued his criticism of Button’s move by saying: “Rubens Barrichello is a good little peddler and murdered Jenson in the second half of last season. Michael [Schumacher] never got murdered by anyone. Lewis came into his first year in F1 and beat a double world champion in Fernando Alonso – that's a class act.

"If you look at Jenson's career, Ralf Schumacher beat him, Giancarlo Fisichella beat him and Rubens beat him. There are too many races where he hasn't performed, to say he's at the level of any of those guys.”

Alan Henry

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8 January 2010

Alan if indeed Jenson Button is a loser as Eddie Irvine suggest, it take one to know one.

Eddie will always be remembered for ???????????

I've got it, talking up Michael Shumacher and talking about every other F1 driver and how bad they are compared to Michael Shumacher.

As for "Rubens Barrichello is a good little peddler and murdered Jenson". He also murdered Eddie in the 1995 Canadian Grand Prix to finish 2nd, a step above Eddie's 3rd on the podium. Driving the same car as Eddie I may add.

Eddie talks as if he is an ex-world champion, instead of a middle order F1 peddler.

Jenson is not my favourite F1 driver, but he may just prove a lot of doubters wrong and give Lewis a run for his money.

8 January 2010

[quote TOD1888]Jenson is not my favourite F1 driver, but he may just prove a lot of doubters wrong and give Lewis a run for his money.[/quote]

He may prove to be effective against his team-mate if Hamilton doesn't adopt some of Button's reserve during the races of the coming season, but Irvine is better placed than most people to comment, and although he's typically strident, he's also correct.

Against an overly-excitable, but far more talented, Hamilton, Button may sometimes demonstrate a better long game, but against the best, the super-intelligent and comprehensively dominant figures such as Schumacher, an ascendant Vettel and Alonso, he is unlikely to achieve much, and has been unable to achieve much before.

Irvine never claims to have been a great driver, but he was a contemporary of almost all of the people about whom speaks, and he's good enough to know who has quality and who doesn't. The mind game, in which he is impishly playing his part here, is exquisite. That game is perhaps the central theme of Formula One.

In 2010, the factors of heavy fuel loads and tyre management will be key - how significantly they effect the naturally super-quick compared to the super-tentative will decide whether Hamilton can be beaten by Button.

Jenson must hope that Lewis is caught out by his own exuberance, but if he is hoping that the same fortune will befall Vettel or Schumacher, that will require more than the sprinkling of luck that enabled him to become a World Champion, he'll need those drivers to have forgotten everything that makes them superior.

All credit must go to Button for achieving what was a rather lacklustre and fortuitous Championship title, but it is impossible to avoid a broader judgement upon Button's career, in which one contrasts his gifts against his rivals and forebears, where all facets of Grand Prix competition are considered. When you make that judgement at this moment in time, he smacks of a driver who'll drift into obscurity unless he either spontaneously becomes more talented or a deal more hype is ladled onto his profile.

The thing I admire most about Button is his mental fortitude. He is not a great driver, but he has for years coped with the punishing psychology of Formula One like a man, and although he is not well-liked within the sport, he never crumbled to the point where he gave up or was completely overlooked.

That is his legacy: a fighter who has triumphed through dogged determination rather than irrepressible brilliance.

8 January 2010

[quote VirginPower]Irvine never claims to have been a great driver, but he was a contemporary of almost all of the people about whom he speaks... [sorry][/quote]

8 January 2010

[quote VirginPower]Button: a fighter who has triumphed through dogged determination rather than irrepressible brilliance[/quote]

Rather like Damon Hill, and Graham....

Although I don't agree with the way he put it, Irvine may be right.

If Lewis knackers his tyres in the races, then Jenson stands a chance. But then he has to beat the others, and don't forget that Lewis is not a rookie any more....

At least Irvine isn't threatening to make a comeback ;-)

8 January 2010

I'd tend to agree with Eddie. (He wasn't a midfield peddler and came 2nd in 99, partly cos Schuey broke his leg, but even so did a really good job for Ferrari when their cars weren't so good and then got stuck in a Jag). I don't think Jenson is as good as last year made it seem. But time will tell and I'm looking forward to finding out.

8 January 2010

Errr. Have I missed something here. I thought the term used to define someone who is working for the same company as you is a called a 'Teammate'. So how will Lewis be Jenson's rival as virtually everyone here is mentioning. I can deduce from comments here, is that in F1 unlike any other sport. Drivers join teams to try and beat their team mate? This just sounds absurd.

I don't know much about F1 tactics I haven't watched a race since may last year and tbh brutally honest the past years in F1 have been a obscene parade of logos whizzing a round a track with sweet FA happening in between..

However I believe the principle of the sport is that every driver should and is out to win but not at the expense of writing off your opponents or teammates (ala Michael Schumacher style).

Irvine's comments are at best arrogant from a man who won nothing. Jenson fought hard to win last years title even when he wasn't getting on the podium in the latter part of the season. The man deserves some respect. McLaren have a good history of having reliable cars, Brawn in the other hand was getting their butts kicked once their rivals sorted out their vehicles in the 2nd half of the Championship. Next season will see the Brits agains the Germans in what will be very evenly matched vehicles. The strongest will survive providing (dick dasterdly) I mean Schumacher doesn't pull some of his old tricks.

8 January 2010

[quote TOD1888]

Alan if indeed Jenson Button is a loser as Eddie Irvine suggest, it take one to know one.

Eddie will always be remembered for ???????????

I've got it, talking up Michael Shumacher and talking about every other F1 driver and how bad they are compared to Michael Shumacher.

As for "Rubens Barrichello is a good little peddler and murdered Jenson". He also murdered Eddie in the 1995 Canadian Grand Prix to finish 2nd, a step above Eddie's 3rd on the podium. Driving the same car as Eddie I may add.

Eddie talks as if he is an ex-world champion, instead of a middle order F1 peddler.

Jenson is not my favourite F1 driver, but he may just prove a lot of doubters wrong and give Lewis a run for his money.

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None of your points are relevent, even if eddie only started 1 race in f1 then crashed on the 1st corner, it still makes his statement valid. What has his own record got to do with anything?

8 January 2010

i have to agree with Eddie on this one i think Jensons decision will come back to haunt him with his move to Mclaren! I'm sure its all about they money!

8 January 2010

Irvine is a complete hypocrite. He went to Ferrari for the money. Button has gone to Mclaren for a fresh challenge, pitting himself against one of the best in motorsport. All great champions seek to do this. If you don't take risks you can't hope to win.

8 January 2010

Like Irvine or not, on this one he will be 100% correct. Button will be getting re-acquainted with the midfield very soon.

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