Enzo to be a test bed for carbonfibre tech; boss hints that hypercar will use twin-turbo V8

Ferrari will not make widespread use of carbonfibre in its production road cars until it better understands the material’s long-term reliability, according to company boss Amedeo Felisa.

“We will only use carbonfibre on very special cars which have a very low rate of production and which are not for everyday use, such as the new Enzo,” he said in an exclusive interview with Autocar.

Ferrari has used carbonfibre in such cars as the F50 and Enzo, but Felisa says it is not yet ready to use it across its model range. This puts it at odds with McLaren, whose MP4-12C supercar has a carbon tub. Mercedes is also committed to using carbonfibre in its cars from 2012, as is BMW from 2013.

“The fact is that nobody today has a real understanding of what happens if you damage a carbonfibre structure,” says Felisa. “After 20 or 30 years of use, who knows what state a carbonfibre structure will be in? Only the airplane industry has a long-term understanding of using carbonfibre, and there the usage is very different. Unless you have a really big accident, it is possible to repair a Ferrari today, and we don’t want to lose that.”

Felisa also hinted that the new Ferrari Enzo will be powered by a direct-injection twin-turbo V8 when it is launched in 2012.

Reports had long suggested the new Enzo would be powered by either a V8 or direct-injection twin-turbo V6. However, Felisa has ruled out a six-cylinder engine.

“There are no plans for a six-cylinder engine today,” Felisa said. “Ferrari will not build a six-cylinder engine until customer attitudes towards smaller engines change.

“The perception today is that the number of cylinders equates to the possibilities of the car. That is why we are developing hybrid technology that can be applied to our V8 and V10 cars. Hybrid means we can protect the V12.

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7 May 2010

“The fact is that nobody today has a real understanding of what happens if you damage a carbonfibre structure,” says Felisa. “After 20 or 30 years of use, who knows what state a carbonfibre structure will be in? Only the airplane industry has a long-term understanding of using carbonfibre, and there the usage is very different. Unless you have a really big accident, it is possible to repair a Ferrari today, and we don’t want to lose that.”

What chu smokin there amedeo? Pure pr spin. Maybe when he figures it out he can call Mercedes and BMW and tell them how all their 2012/3 cars will turn out. Maybe they will all self-destruct! J

7 May 2010

[quote Autocar]Ferrari will not make widespread use of carbonfibre in its production road cars until it better understands the material’s long-term reliability, according to company boss Amedeo Felisa.

“We will only use carbonfibre on very special cars which have a very low rate of production and which are not for everyday use, such as the new Enzo,” he said in an exclusive interview with Autocar.

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Ferrari are losing the plot yet further. Twin-turbo V8s? Didn't they learn with the horrid F40? Surely it would be more to the point to downsize the V12 (the old V12 was originally a 3.3 litre, I seem to remember), or to come up with a flat-six (NOT V6!).

7 May 2010

[quote Rover P6 3500S]Ferrari are losing the plot yet further. Twin-turbo V8s? Didn't they learn with the horrid F40?[/quote]

The F40 and it's powerplant horrid! Are you sure Ferrari is the only one losing the plot Rover P6?!

7 May 2010

[quote Rover P6 3500S]Ferrari are losing the plot yet further. Twin-turbo V8s? Didn't they learn with the horrid F40?[/quote]

Are you naturally completely stupid or do you practise every day? Or are you just deliberately making ridiculous comments to generate a reaction?

The F40 is regarded as one of the greatest supercars ever, and one of Ferrari's finest achievements as being the very essence of what a Ferrari is.

[quote Rover P6 3500S] (the old V12 was originally a 3.3 litre, I seem to remember)[/quote]

Yes, and the original Porsche 911 was something like a 2.2 litre. What exactly is your point? Not really relevant in the 21st century.

[quote Rover P6 3500S]or to come up with a flat-six (NOT V6!).
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Er, why? Other than Porsche and Subaru, no-one believes in a flat 6. The V6 is a far better compromise for virtually any road car.

7 May 2010

What's are these stickers about? number 69? Looks like some idiotic 16 year old was let loose on the model...

7 May 2010

you can get more than adequate power from a 6 cylinder these days, and its a just a waste of time money and effort making v8 / v12 's. however looks like great style from ferrari once again.

conservatives are the largest party its official. which one of you donkeys voted labour.

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7 May 2010

the ultimate ferrari will always make headlines whether it's a V8,V12 etc. I just hope it will stay a V12. Since 458 italia does 127bhp/litre how about pushing the envelope even more? i always thought the ultimate configuration for the flagship ferrari should be a normally aspirated 5.0 V12 revving up to a screaming 9500-10.000 rpm pumping put 700 bhp or 140bhp/litre. Combine that with the 1 ton weight of the millechili concept and there you have it. Sadly i don't get to make that kind of choices...

7 May 2010

[quote Rover P6 3500S]Didn't they learn with the horrid F40?[/quote] Hilarious! I might have to take beck my comment that you know much about cars.

7 May 2010

The 911 started with a 2.0 flat 6.

For my next Enzo, it will be a NA V12 3.6 l.

7 May 2010

[quote disco.stu]

[quote Rover P6 3500S]Ferrari are losing the plot yet further. Twin-turbo V8s? Didn't they learn with the horrid F40?[/quote]

Are you naturally completely stupid or do you practise every day? Or are you just deliberately making ridiculous comments to generate a reaction?

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+1

Obviously never driven a well sorted turbo, n/a being the god of all engine design is a total myth.

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