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Jan 26 2010

Jaguar lightens up

Hilton Holloway
I shot this picture at Jaguar’s Castle Bromwich plant last week. On the left is a rear door from the new XJ saloon. On the right is a rear door from an XF saloon.

This little hands-on demonstration was designed to show us just how much weight can be saved through the use of aluminium. The XJ door weighs just 8.9kg, while the XF door weighs 13.9kg. That’s a massive 5kg saving, making the XJ door nearly a third lighter.



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What struck me straight away was the seemingly comparative ease of fitting aluminium doors to the rather weighty XF saloon. I suppose if we have four doors the total weight saving would be 20kgs, and we could deduct another 25kg by using an aluminium bonnet and boot lid.

Of course, the door hinge faces would have to be made of aluminium to prevent rampant galvanic corrosion between the ally door structures and the XF’s steel monocoque, but some bright spark can surely develop a bi-metal design, that bonds an aluminium face onto a steel hinge plate.

Interestingly, if I heard the engineer on the shop floor correctly, the XJ production equipment can produce a full set of ‘closures’ in just 206 seconds. So perhaps this clever robotic machinery has the capacity to make aluminium doors and lids for the XF as well? It might be good idea for the car’s mid-life facelift.

Nobody at Jaguar would give me a clue as to whether the next XF would also be made entirely of (relatively expensive) aluminium, but I was told that large volume production demands that an aluminium car is made from stamped sheet rather than square-section aluminium extrusions, like those used in the Jaguar XK and Lotus Elise. And Jaguar has clearly invested in a serious aluminium stamping operation.

Could Jaguar base the next XF off the XJ’s floor structure? Why not? BMW’s 5- and 7-series cars have long been basically the same vehicle. Such a move would raise the prospect of this Castle Bromwich production line building the same basic saloon car at a rate of, say, 55,000 units per year. That has to be a sound recipe for profitability.

Incidentally, the hunks of green-painted metal in the background are the press tools used to stamp out the panels that make up the inner structure and exterior skin. I asked how often the tools are taken in for inspection and repair.

"Once a year or every 25,000 operations," said the Jaguar engineer.

Does that mean Jaguar wants to build 25,000 XJs per year?  If it does, it would be huge jump over the sales of the old XJ. But they deserve to do so.

The XJ’s body engineering is a work of art.

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About Hilton Holloway

Has two product design degrees and used to design mountain bikes. Realised that cars were a lot more interesting in 1990, and has been writing about them ever since.

Comments

beachland2 January 26, 2010 10:35 AM

10 years ago vw made the lupo GTi, that is a steel car with aluminium doors/wings and bonnet. So it's not hard to do.

It works very well, i have one. It comes with a 12 year corrosion warranty and i'm not aware of any hinge problem.

Old Toad January 26, 2010 10:36 AM

Hilton,

A well written and interesting blog as usual. Im sure a gasket could be fitted between an aluminium hinge and a steel frame to prevent electrolitic reaction.

As you know from your Mtb design days 6061 is better than chro mo for comparitive strength and weight.

Carbon fibre is all the rage nowadays in the MTB world. Cant see this getting into cars much because of the cost.

An ali XF would be great as I think the forthcoming XJ is actually lighter than the present XF. Plus it would out German the Germans !

I think lithium aluminium alloys are widely used in the aerospace industry maybe they will trickle down to cars as well.

BigEd January 26, 2010 11:04 AM

I think this weight thing is a dead-end.

The first job is to make a car that will sell and return a profit. The new XJ may be all 'trick' but its design is divisive and cost of production surely high compared to more conventional steel-bodied cars.

The new 5-series is heavy, heavier than the last one. But it's also bigger and stiffer, making up for its previous comparative rear space deficiency and allowing class leading refinement from a rigid platform.

The new 5 series shows there's at least as much potential in improving engine efficiency(N54 to N55 single turbo/VANOS engine erc.) and aerodynamic measures to boost fuel economy and maintain/improve performance as there is in straight weight reduction, which may have to come at added unit expense - alu. alloy building - or reduced ride performance, through 'lighter' cars in the business/limo classes being unable to 'crush' bumps with such aplomb - witness the lauding of the near 2 tonne 5 GT's chassis for this bump-crushing ability, associated with its sheer weight.

Besides Hilton, a maker like Jaguar will always struggle to compete with makers like BMW/Merc, turning out around 500k units per year of their exec/limo platforms, compared to Jag's around 50k units/yr. Economies of scale will always play against JLR in production tooling costs and external supply contracts, where most of the cost of production is.

Jaguar must foremost ensure its designs are attractive and set them apart from the high-volume German premium trio, so that it can cover its higher unit production costs with higher pricing which the customer accepts from buying a more unique, different design. The conventional steel-bodied, heavy XF to an extent has pulled this off, at least in the UK and US markets. The 'lightweight' XJ appears to have less good prospects.

beachland2 January 26, 2010 11:19 AM

As has already been reported by the likes of Tata a car can be mass produced in  carbonfibre and be just as cheap as a steel car, possibly cheaper. They just need to do it in big numbers, the investment is just in the factory, carbon fibre is not that an expensive material.

Chips January 26, 2010 11:25 AM

IIRC - XF already has an aluminium bonnet

Providing XJ rides and handles as it should, I can't see it being anything but a success.

1) It's gorgeous - in the metal it is stunning and a lot of people love it when they see it - not everyone does, but then I doesn't really matter because the 7 series and S class are lumpy old barges and the new A8 is bland-o-rama.

2) The interior is beautifully designed and finished

3) Its light weight and competitive powertrains mean it's no slower, thirstier or " dirtier " than anything from the Germans. In a year or so when Jag pick up the ZF 8 speed powertrains and the stop start technology that can accompany it, they will be even better

4) It won't be hampered by a lack of technology - XJ has all the toys and fluff you can get in a 7 series and S class.

Casanova January 26, 2010 11:45 AM

BigEd - any engineer will tell you that weight reduction gives you an improvement in virtually every area.  

Having a car that rides better, uses less fuel (hence emits less CO2 too), is more agile, has less momentum in a crash, brakes better and accelerates faster can only help to sell more cars, and Jag have obviously calculated that the investment is worth the benefits.

Of course, there are benefits to advancing powertrain technology too, and few would argue that BMW are ahead of the game in this area.

A small point about ride performance - heavier cars do not 'crush' bumps.  Good suspension tuning and sensible tyres are all that is needed for a good ride.  Some heavier cars have that, despite their excess mass giving the system more work to do.

MattDB January 26, 2010 12:21 PM

Even if they made an aluminium XF it would still be relatively heavy so it would still 'crush bumps' as some have commented.  What helps ride and handling is mass within the suspension, ie hubs, suspension arms, dampers, steering etc.  Jaguar already make these in alloy and the XK and old XJ proove that jag know how to tune this well.  What Jag need is very powerful but low co2 engines, similar to what BMW have and Merc are bringing out.  An XF with 2litre diesel and co2 below 145g/km and at least 200bhp would sell by the bucketload.

overboost January 26, 2010 4:20 PM

The problem with any diesel investment is that the US - Jags biggest customer, does not like Diesels and its even harder for Jag to get over the image problem as its quite new to the technology (modern ones anyway). Better to invest in hybrid technology where it can sell both in Europe and the US. As to weight, carbon fibre while stronger is harder to repair and required a whole new toolset and skillset. Jag needs to improve quality to Lexus levels and bring out a competitor to the 3-series aas more buyers downsize if it is to overcome Joe Public USA's belief that only the leather is better than the German (and Lexus) competition.  

fuzzybear January 26, 2010 4:43 PM

I think the idea is a good one , since the machinary is available and its possible to do as beachland says with the Lupo GTI. Weight saving should definitely be a priority.Cars have ballooned in weight over the last decade and a half. It would certainly work towards making Jaguars the racers of the exectutive world like the MK 2 and the original S Type and maybe taking back the mantle from BMW

CambsBill January 26, 2010 6:15 PM

Ultimately as BigEd says it's down to can they be built from ali and still make a profit.  The XJ and XK both sell at the premium end of the market where the cost can clearly be built into the price.  In the medium sector there'll be less scope for adding to the basic material & construction costs so I really don't know.

Heavy cars don't 'crush' bumps - if only; our roads would be a lot flatter!  How good or bad a ride you get is down to a combination of suspension setup, tyres and both unsprung and total weight, the latter because the lower it is the less the rest of the components have to do.

As for combining steel & ali it's being done probably a lot more than most of us think.  Certainly my old WRX had an ali bonnet so if that can be hinged & latched to a steel body then doors certainly could be.

I did the factory tour before Christmas and the whole process is utterly fascinating.  Even those doors are a work of art, combining pressed, extruded and cast aluminium.

kurtverbose January 26, 2010 6:42 PM

While an aluminium XF would be nice, the real scale will come when the next Range Rover comes off the same production line.

HiltonH January 26, 2010 8:08 PM

Old Toad

It was funny to hear Jaguar talking about 6000-series ally. That was all the rage back in the late 1980s when the Canondale 3.0 frame was launched. Shows you how advanced mountain bikes were 20 odd years ago. (BTW - the use of term MTB suggests you were around the scene in the very early days...)

Big Ed

Don't know how this works, but I image that high volume ally production is a contradiction. But for Jaguar and Land Rover it looks ideal. Even (ultimately) with 120,000 units per year from this production line combined it looks like a right-size operation. It also seemed to me that the individual allly pressings were quite small, as were the tools that pressed them. I imagine that keeps investment costs right down.

Although I can see how a pair of future Range Rovers could come off the X351 floor (a discussion for another blog), it would be amazing to see XJs and Rangeys mixed up on the same production line.

BigEd January 27, 2010 11:41 AM

Hliton, I know it's VW( a more mass market player overall) and not premium BMW or Merc but see Martin Winterkorn's remarks in Steve Cropley's interview piece on 'more than one way to skin a cat', in relation to other ways to improve efficiency other than solely weight reduction - kind of the point I was making above. We must not lose sight of viable unit cost.

Old Toad January 27, 2010 1:52 PM

Hilton ,

Yes I have been riding for too many years to remember. Started off on one of the first successful full suss bikes a Marin Rift Zone . Now riding on Carbon Scott full suss bike but take a look at the prices these days if you think cars have got expensive.

A whyte or a Canondale for over 5 grand anyone ? Oh and bikes are now having adjustable suspension travel air shocks and someone even came up with a 2wd model. Same emissions though !

mybrainaches January 28, 2010 10:37 PM

Old Toad,

Just looking in the garage and considering the progression of material technology in MTB...  The orange clockwork with cromo and Pace RC36 auminium bonded to Carbon forks.  Rocky mountain TI bolt, 6al 4V titanium, GT lobo carbon (snapped, notsuch a good example..) My current DH bike a scott high cotane has a auminium monocoque, carbon, titanium spring, oil and air shocks, 240mm of travel...  in fact it could be considered a bargin (ahem..) oh yes and 6pot calipers... madness.

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