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Ford Fiesta

The seventh-generation Ford Fiesta is the UK's best selling car, helped by frugal engines, handling verve and a big car feel

9 May 2012

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10 May 2012

Nearly £17,000 for a small car with features like a lumpy start-up and "four-cylinder's thrum is intrusive under load", no sixth gear and a 0-60 time touching on 13 seconds.

Yes it might save a couple of hundred pounds a year but it's costs big bucks in the first place so over 3 years at say 9000 miles a year you're have an inferior car which will cost about the same, maybe more, than a 1.4 Titanium.

 

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10 May 2012

Undoubtedly good consumption figures in theory . Thing is unless you are doing more than12k miles a year its not worth the outlay .

I would be interested to know what sort of % of supermini drivers exceed 12k miles a year .

However the forthcoming 1 litre petrol 3 pot will be a much more economical proposition in the long run and may well be a much better driver with a lighter lump in the front .

This car would make much more sense in mainland Europe where diesel is much cheaper than petrol . I still havent "got" all the excuses for diesel being more expensive that petrol in the UK .

Anybody offer any enlightenment on that than we are being ripped off with diesel prices ?

Diesels are also far too complicated for their own good nowadays . Fine as a company car but as a 5 year old private buy much more risky because there is so much stuff to go expensively wrong .

10 May 2012

Given the base model Fiesta is £10,395, is it possible to add 60% value to the same basic car? Either one is under-priced and the other is over-priced, or, conversely, one is over-priced and the other is grossly over-priced

10 May 2012

[quote Old Toad]Anybody offer any enlightenment on that than we are being ripped off with diesel prices ?[/quote]

Simple really, market forces.

Since 1991 petrol sales in the UK have declined and diesel risen as has avtur.

Due to lack of profits in refining of petrol, diesel and avtur (for jet aircraft) in the UK the refineries in the UK have not been modernised to cope with the changes in demand. Middle Eastern and Asian refiners have built new more efficient refineries so some avtur and diesel is imported into the UK nowadays. Partly this has to do with UK legislation making owning a refinery a big legal risk, hence the major oil companies selling off their UK refineries. The UK refines too much petrol which is exported to the USA and not enough diesel so the price of diesel rises and petrol falls in comparison.

Most countries that have cheaper diesel prices tax it less than petrol.

As diesel contains about 10% more energy than petrol it would have to be currently 14p per litre more expensive to make the price equal in energy terms.

Although this Fiesta is nearly £3k more expensive than the 1.4 petrol version the combined consumption figures are 48 per gallon petrol and 78 diesel or 133 g/km to 87 g/km a huge difference. Ford, so far, are not putting the 1.0 litre 3 pot in the Fiesta, due to cost/complexity? There is little difference in the cost or complexity of a diesel like this and a direct injection turbo petrol engine, just look at VW's TSi engines.

10 May 2012

This must be a depressing thing to drive around in - especially if you've shelled out so much money. Find it hard to look by the likes of the C1 that can be had for around £6k, at least they're good fun to drive. Not as if the fiesta really offers all that much more space anyway

10 May 2012

[quote sierra] Given the base model Fiesta is £10,395, is it possible to add 60% value to the same basic car? Either one is under-priced and the other is over-priced, or, conversely, one is over-priced and the other is grossly over-priced[/quote]

Very true, but applies to a lot of cars, for example..

Audi A3 £17400 - £39950

Polo £9920 - £19950

5 series £30030 - £73040

10 May 2012

[quote rodenal]This must be a depressing thing to drive around in - especially if you've shelled out so much money. Find it hard to look by the likes of the C1 that can be had for around £6k[/quote]

Yes on pure economic terms buying a car with a list price of £8k like the C1 makes this top of the range Fiesta look expensive. But it is really a lot bigger than a C1 but that depends if that matters to you. After all you can buy a C1 or similar with a list price starting at £8k, this Fiesta model from £15k up or a Chevy Volt/ Leaf for twice the price. The choice is huge and it is that which makes choosing your next car interesting.

10 May 2012

They also charge £200 to have it in solid white!

10 May 2012

[quote Maxycat][quote Old Toad]Anybody offer any enlightenment on that than we are being ripped off with diesel prices ?[/quote]

Although this Fiesta is nearly £3k more expensive than the 1.4 petrol version the combined consumption figures are 48 per gallon petrol and 78 diesel or 133 g/km to 87 g/km a huge difference. Ford, so far, are not putting the 1.0 litre 3 pot in the Fiesta, due to cost/complexity? There is little difference in the cost or complexity of a diesel like this and a direct injection turbo petrol engine, just look at VW's TSi engines.

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Difference between 1.4 Titanium 5dr and this Version is £2,015 (£14,780 verses £16,795).

Above figures from Ford but the following is opinion. This car would get no where near to 78 mpg (review got 58) in the world whereas the petrol wouldn't be far of 48 mpg, my guess is 40 mpg.

 

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10 May 2012

Maxycat ,

Thanks for that I thought it was something to do with refining capacity/undercapacity but had no idea we as in the UK exported petrol overseas .

As you seem to know about fuel what the difference between Avtur and Avtag . Isnt Avtur basically refined paraffin ? I mean diesel is essentially 35 sec fuel oil isnt it .

I assume Avtur means aviation fuel for turbines ie jets but cant work Avtag out .

Sorry other readers if I have strayed off topic .

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