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Majors on space, comfort and value - but not driving pleasure

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The Citroën C3 is a competent and interesting supermini, but it doesn’t hit any high notes

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18 November 2009

"The 1.4-litre 94bhp engine is short on low-down acceleration, which is typical of a small naturally aspirated engine, but it is perfectly usable for everyday driving."

Personally, I'd much rather have the normally aspirated engine.

It is good to see Citroen buck the trend against the firmly sprung and "sporting" suspension settings. I can see this car winning a lot of friends because of it.

 

 

It's all about the twisties........

18 November 2009

13k+ for a small Citroen?!

Personally, I cannot wait for the scrappage scheme to end and a return to sensible pricing.

Anyone else p'd off with adverts showing the price of a new car minus scrappage without really identifying this being the case unless you get a magnifying glass out?

Where has all Japanese design went to?

18 November 2009

Hope they manage to sort out the driving position for the right-hand drive Ghia, I mean, DS3 version...

18 November 2009

[quote Zeddy]Personally, I cannot wait for the scrappage scheme to end and a return to sensible pricing.[/quote]

Nohting to do with scrappage. Go look at the sterling:euro exchange rate. The pound is worth far less than it was, and all the pre-recession surplus stock in the supply chain has been sold. The era of cheap cars in the UK is over.

18 November 2009

Maybe, but watch the sales dry up and the manufacturers and dealers panic.

Funny how you can get a lot more than £1k scrappage from the manufacturers. Capacity for big discount?

Where has all Japanese design went to?

18 November 2009

Actually, a lot of it is down to scrappage I reckon. Nissan put the price of the Pixo up from £5995 to £6995 because scrappage would've made it too cheap. And yes, I do get annoyed when they display scrappage prices and don't make it obvious. £13,000 for the C3 is expensive, but then £15,000 for a Fiesta is ridiculous too. The Polo seems to be the most sensibly priced at the moment. As for the 'driving pleasure' being a downside - I'm fed up of Autocar making this out to be such a downside to a car. Citroens have never tried to be sporty to drive, with the exception of the Saxo (but that was a Peugeot anyway), and their motto has always been about comfort. The i20, Polo and 207 aren't as sporty as the Fiesta, but magazines don't highlight that as much as they have done with both the C3 Picasso and this new C3. Not everyone wants to speed around corners - buy something purposely sporty if you want that, like the Fiesta or MINI. The C3 will win fans because of its comfort, its frankly amazing quality, gorgeous design details and brilliant glass roof. I'd much rather have one than a Fiesta, personally.

"The creative adult is the child who survived."

18 November 2009

Have you seen just what £13.000 can buy on the second hand market. You must need your head testing to pay anything like that sum for a small car. Jesus H I must be getting old, in my day you could buy a new fiesta for less than £5500 and they were still bloody expensive then!

18 November 2009

[quote qpgkx the unpronounceable]Have you seen just what £13.000 can buy on the second hand market. You must need your head testing to pay anything like that sum for a small car. Jesus H I must be getting old, in my day you could buy a new fiestJa for less than £5500 and they were still bloody expensive then![/quote] it's nothing we all know that we can get a much better car 2nd hand and at a lower cost. But in this instance I agree with u 13k for this type car to much mabye 9k. However most people buy this sort of car on 0%apr and split payments over 4 yrs somthing which is not always doable with 2nd cars

18 November 2009

[quote Zeddy]Maybe, but watch the sales dry up and the manufacturers and dealers panic.[/quote]

Now the surplus stocks are cleared it's worse for manufacturers to sell at a loss than to cut down production drastically. And that's what's happening.

Some manufacturers will go bust. In fact some are doing - haven't you noticed? The survivors will be those who take out volume aggressively - meaning plant closures and layoffs - reducing the scale of their operations to match the lower level of demand that exists at the prices needed to cover the costs of manufacture and make a sensible return on the capital that remains employed in the new smaller business.

19 November 2009

[quote Mini1]I'm fed up of Autocar making this out to be such a downside to a car. Citroens have never tried to be sporty to drive, with the exception of the Saxo (but that was a Peugeot anyway), and their motto has always been about comfort. The i20, Polo and 207 aren't as sporty as the Fiesta, but magazines don't highlight that as much as they have done with both the C3 Picasso and this new C3. Not everyone wants to speed around corners - buy something purposely sporty if you want that, like the Fiesta or MINI[/quote]

I agree with you on this if you want to go fast get something overtly sporty ! Doh ! If the testers are driving a run of the mill albeit left of field refreshingly alternative superminii then its ability to go fast around corners is less important and should not factor so heavily in the write up.

What might be a good idea is to get the younger (er more enthusiastic driving ? ) roadtesters drive and reveiw the sexy sporty stuff and for more mature testers to drive the more pedestrian stuff. Though I suspect seniority among journalists may play a role to produce exactly the opposite .

It has been pointed out to me that performance cars are Autocars remit and yes that is true to a point but they still test a good %age of humdrum stuff so should keep the tests in context with the probabvle end user.

And yes it is possible to be a car enthusiast without driving flat out every time you get in a car.

Oops see how many young feathers I will ruffle now !

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