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CEO Stadler says Audi must be dynamic, not green

Audi will not follow BMW in trying to position itself as a green brand, according to company boss Rupert Stadler.

Stadler said that, while Audi will always try to build as efficient vehicles as possible, it would never sell its cars on the back of being a green brand.

"We will stick to our Vorsprung Durch Technik philosophy, not have a catch-all marketing claim such as Efficient Dynamics," said Stadler. "We're convinced in Vorsprung Durch Technik, we're a dynamic, sporty brand but not necessarily positioned as a green brand. That will come about as a matter of course.

"We want to take out weight and want to further diesel and FSI technology. We can still improve fuel consumption. But we will not position Audi as a green car brand - we will fulfil regulations - but we are also an emotional brand."

Stadler also said that Audi wouldn't put an electric car on sale until it was convinced it would give the sort of performance Audi buyers have come to expect. However, he did commit to putting the Audi E-tron into production by 2012, adding that the possibilities of electric power were interesting.

"We have to optimise performance of electric cars," he said. "Performance is part of our emotional appeal, so it’s very important.

"Electric power will also give Quattro more possibilities, such as powering the rear axle like in the A1 concept, or four wheels in motors like the E-tron. In fact, we want to launch a production E-tron in small volumes at the end of 2012."

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ryaner 8 December 2009

Re: Audi: 'We're not a green brand'

beachland2 wrote:

Putting stats aside there is not a chance is hell of an Rs6 beating an R8 on any point to point situation, the power to weight is massively in favour of the R8. I'ts also designed to go around corners.

I would be ashamed to be called a car enthusiast if any negative thoughts went through my mind if in an "in gear test" of 50-70mph an Rs6 pulled away, so what? That Rs6 would be a laughing stock in any sports competition up against the R8, both owners should be intelligent enough to fully understand that.

Thats why you dont get 1985kgs of RS6 racing and beating Mclaren F1 cars in a GT series. They are not sports cars and not anywhere near good enough to be in the same class.

I do agree there is little point in comparing them. But if one is comparing them, surely its the v8 R8 that is similar to the RS6, (R8 costing £3k more) rather than the V10 R8 (costing £23k more). Having driven a V8 R8 and a RS6 in the same day over the same road, I did find it a bit dissapointing that the RS6 felt substantially quicker. While it wouldn't bother me too much if a RS6 pulled away from me in a drag race if I was in a R8, (probably a situation I would never be in anyway), the knowledge that an estate that is cheaper could feel so much quicker than a sportscarthat costs more from the same company would nag me a bit.

stutts 8 December 2009

Re: Audi: 'We're not a green brand'

MattDB wrote:

Dear Mr. Audi,

What are you then?

Sporty? No. Sporty is a great drive. Not fake carbon trim, hard springs and 19" wheels.

Emotional? No. All of your cars look the same, so where is the desire to aspire to a higher model.

Green? Possible, but you deny this is an option for you. Probably because you have no answer to BMW who seem to acheive low co2 with proper performance.

This is one very confused brand, who cannot identify what they stand for as the product doesn't back up the bold statements. The range lacks innovation and has simply become boring.

thank you, someone who is on my wavelength!
stutts 8 December 2009

Re: Audi: 'We're not a green brand'

MattDB wrote:

Dear Mr. Audi,

What are you then?

Sporty? No. Sporty is a great drive. Not fake carbon trim, hard springs and 19" wheels.

Emotional? No. All of your cars look the same, so where is the desire to aspire to a higher model.

Green? Possible, but you deny this is an option for you. Probably because you have no answer to BMW who seem to acheive low co2 with proper performance.

This is one very confused brand, who cannot identify what they stand for as the product doesn't back up the bold statements. The range lacks innovation and has simply become boring.

thank you, someone who is on my wavelength!