Interesting chat with a local journalist while I was poking around the Beijing motor show floor this morning.
Looking at a particularly flaky minivan which looked like it might topple over unless passengers climbed aboard two by two from each side in order to keep it balanced, he must have seen my smirk.
"In China it is very important to differentiate between the local cars that provide mobility where there would otherwise be none, the general everyday cars and the luxury cars," he said. "For some people just having an engine is enough."
I asked him what his view of Chinese car makers succeeding beyond their own borders was, and whether he could name me the cars he thought could be successfully exported. It was a leading question, but the answer was interesting.
"Not so many now, but through choice rather than quality," he said. "Building in quality is just a process, and China has proved in many sectors that it can build products to any quality the market wants. Once Chinese car makers come to Europe, they will raise standards to whatever level is expected. It won’t take long - and we will do it better and more economically than anyone else."