FIND A CAR REVIEW

Advertisement

Ads by Google


Page 1 of 5 (52 items) 1 2 3 4 5 Next >
Sort posts Rate this thread
  • Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 5:12 PM

    Chrysler will disappear completely from European car markets in 2011, company bosses have confirmed.

    In addition, Dodge will have only a niche role outside of its home market, while Jeep will become the company’s sole international brand.

    Fiat/Chrysler's five-year plan


    The new Chrysler 300C and new Voyager MPV will both be sold under the Lancia badge, according to a report from...Read the full article
    • March1
    • Joined Jun 10, 2009
    • 279 Posts
    • Status: Offline

    Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 5:14 PM

    Seems like a sensible plan in light of Chrysler's failure to get anywhere in Europe. Can't really imagine what kind of an animal a Hemi V8 Lancia 300C would be though...
  • Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 5:17 PM

    I'd love to meet the marketing suit who decided that branding ex-Chryslers as the Thesis, Phaedra, Lybra, and Croma was a smart move. This has to be a wind up.
  • Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 5:29 PM

    sorry fellas, all you starry-eyed Marchionne fan boys who swooned over FIAT conquering the world with chic Italian gotta-have products have just been brought down to earth. What the f*ck else did you expect from a marriage between the world's worst car company, Chrysler, and a dyed in the wool corporate legal man, Marchionne. You are not talking passionate car guys here. You're talking dessicated calculating machines, sweating assets, thinking they were onto a good thing, with picking up Chrysler's production and dealer assets for a song, or rather zilch. This will end in tears and will make Rover/BMW and Daimler/Chrysler/Cerberus look like MBA case studies in successful mergers.

  • Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 5:49 PM

    Considering how bad the Chrysler Voyager did in the Euro NCAP tests (you'll lose your legs if your the driver) I'd be quite happy not to have Chrysler in Europe.   Quite simply they're not up to the job.

    Unfortunately, they want to reband some models as Fiats.

     

  • Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 6:16 PM

     The headline says "Chrysler killed off in Europe" but the text says "Lancia killed off Period"

  • Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 6:24 PM

    Chrysler/Lancia as Opel/Vauxhall. Why not?
    • CapsLock
    • Joined Oct 01, 2009
    • 132 Posts
    • Status: Offline

    Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 6:43 PM

    -this is nothing but what was in the last report, so yes, my opinion is still the same, Fiat and Chrylser will be a great success.

    -brands are assets and they are sorting the assets out and integrating the businesses, which is the way to do it, something MB did not do when it owned Chrysler and as said paid a heavy price for it.

    -i think Fiat and Chrysler will be a fantastic success and you can see that integrated and focused business developing; I think its going to be great; my opinion has not changed.

     

  • Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 6:52 PM

    can't help thinking that Autocar have backed the wrong horse here. Autocar made great play of FIAT's plans to grow to a 6m unit a year outfit, which de Montezemolo saw as the threshold of viability for the world's remaining car makers, after the shake out. FIAT/Chrysler are nowhere near this - even if such a 'rule' were true - with Chrysler going backwards in the US, with only the rebound in fat truck sales helping Dodge along. It will take a minimum of five years for FIAT to start to truly integrate its products in a large scale way into the Chrysler group plants and dealer networks; 'cept they haven't got that long, nowhere near it, before the drain of resource to Chryslers' woes starts to bring down the mother company, as happened with Daimler and BMW.

    Now wouldn't it be mature for Autocar's senior writers to eat some humble pie over this 6m unit year threshold nonsense and instead highlight what is a genuine, comparative success story, also in America - Ford. Where Marchionne, the superman hogs the limelight - whether it's unwanted or not - of daring corporate raids, a modest, talented engineer quietly goes about the business of turning around a much larger company. That person? - Alan Mulally, Ford's No.1.

    Alan Mulally, the qualified engineer, Irish American, ex-Boeing 'quietman', who has achieved more in the last three years amongst the American Big Three and quite possibly more than almost any other auto exec in the world, with the possible exception of Winterkorn at VW group. Mulally had the smarts to flog off JLR to Tata for a great price and then set about turning around Ford's N.American ops. This guy seems to rarely get the limelight or praise he deserves. To me he proves that putting a genuine engineering type into the head of a company, over the usual lawyer/accountant bods, is a surer way of success, as evidenced by the antics of the predominantly accountancy types running GM's HQ or even Marchionne's legal-biased background and the stuttering start of the FIAT/Chrysler integration.

    In fact maybe there's something in this Irish roots sh*t perhaps. The last albeit controversial, widely accepted successful US president, Ronny Reagan, had Irish roots; the guy Sir Christopher Kelly, who has finally capped off the looting of the public purse by the pig UK MPs at Westminster is presumably of Irish roots with that name and then there's Mullaly of Ford, of which the founder Henry Ford himself was the son of a Corkman. FoMoCo is back to its roots. So to conclude less 'bella Italia!' from Autocar regards auto industry role models and more 'Erin Go Bragh'!

  • Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 7:11 PM

    richardhead:

    In fact maybe there's something in this Irish roots sh*t perhaps. The last albeit controversial, widely accepted successful US president, Ronny Reagan, had Irish roots; the guy Sir Christopher Kelly, who has finally capped off the looting of the public purse by the pig UK MPs at Westminster is presumably of Irish roots with that name and then there's Mullaly of Ford, of which the founder Henry Ford himself was the son of a Corkman. FoMoCo is back to its roots. So to conclude less 'bella Italia!' from Autocar regards auto industry role models and more 'Erin Go Bragh'!

    I'd forgotten what an economic powerhouse Ireland is. Oh wait a minutes, it isn't. Utter tosh.

    Welcome back horse&cart.

    If you haven't driven a particular car don't say you have just to prove a point. It doesn't fool anybody and is bloody annoying.
    • J400uk
    • Joined Feb 25, 2008
    • 760 Posts
    • Status: Offline

    Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 7:23 PM

    Interesting news. Sounds like they know what they are doing, but it will be interesting to see how the 300C and Voyager sell under a Lancia name, assuming they do bring them to the UK. I hope they make use of the existing dealer network that Dodge and Chrysler have here too.

    • fhp11
    • Joined Nov 03, 2009
    • 886 Posts
    • Status: Offline

    Re: Chrysler killed off in Europe

    Nov 05, 2009 7:23 PM

    WHAT!! This is the most stupid thing ever! Did nobody think to mention to fiat how well big cars with Italian badges sell in Europe? Alfa 166 as a casing point? OK - Maybe people wanting big american cars in europe is not a huge market - but it does exist - NOBODY wants big italian cars - A Lancia 300c!! what a disaster. I feel faint.

Page 1 of 5 (52 items) 1 2 3 4 5 Next >
Back to top

All about Autocar

Newsfeeds

Subscribe to our news with our RSS feeds

Advertise

To advertise with Autocar contact us

Buy our magazines

Discover our titles at themagazineshop.com

Autocar latest issue - cover 8.2.12

NEW ISSUE OUT NOW

FAST, EASY & SECURE
SUBSCRIBE NOW>>