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  • Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 12:29 AM

    Vauxhall has been so much in the news with the saga of who will or won’t own it (the Magna deal is pending, but not yet done) and what it means for the brand, factories and workers that you sometimes need to remind yourself of what matters most: the product. If cars wearing Vauxhall badges in future are not competitive, in the long run it won’t matter much whether it’s owned by GM, Magna or the Queen of Sheba because there will be nothing to own


    But Vauxhall, at least, is convinced th...Read the full article

  • Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 12:39 AM

    I think Vauxhall hit the styling right on the head with this one. I really like the exterior - hints of lots of bits of cars I like. Much better than the bulbous Insignia. Inside also looks stylish, but having spent some time in the Insignia I'm pretty sure it'll be frustratingly complicated. Too many buttons doing too many things. For air-con/climate control you only need to look as far as the current civic to realise how everything can be done clearly, taking up little space and for the greatest ease of use (although one rotary controlis hidden slightly behind the steering wheel...). (it didn't let me write the word describing an object you'd find on a cupboard door - hence "rotary control!) 

    On a technical note does the I30 not just have a "posh" torsion beam set-up - that is only being independent by virtue of trailing rear arms, as opposed to the "true" multi-link set ups in the Golf and Focus (I know Ford refer to the Focus as the "control blade")? Or am I wrong...?

     Gear ratios are rarely chosen now for how the car feels on the road, merely to creep under the nearest CO2 band. It's frustrating - I've always thought 6 speeds was perfect with the first 5 "close ratio" to provide decent acceleration and the 6th purely for cruising at 60mph upwards.

    All in all... I can't see many people choosing this over the Golf if they had the choice. I'd take the Golf and I don't even particularly like VW!

    On a side note - you mentioned the Mondeo and Passat were "softer rivals" - is that an admission that the Mondeo reviews early on did not fully represent the abilities of that car? Ownership wise I've heard some nightmares, though enjoyed the couple of times I drove it. The Passat is also a very sound car now, partly the introduction of the TSI engines, but also the introduction of CR diesels.

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    Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 12:40 AM

     Sorry, 4 stars! No I dont think so. Sounds like poor value for money from the review.

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    Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 8:00 AM

    32.8 seconds to 100 mph !!, or more importantly, circa 23 seconds to get from 60 to 100 mph - christ that is slow.

    For a car that will most likely be thrashing up and down motorways, this total lack of useable power is surprising - why would you buy one with this engine ?. Either stick with the entry level slop (which can't be that much more slovenly than this) or buy the brawniest diesel available in the range

  • Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 9:01 AM

    I know styling is subjective but for me this car doesn't work.  It puts me very much in mind of the Mk2 to Mk3 Astra change over.  I get a suspicion that this car is going to date quite quickly.

    It's all about the twisties....
  • Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 9:09 AM

     Spot on Teg. I am 100% sure that it will not be good seller. It will be like the old Stilo - sold mainly to fleets and a few private buyers. Fiat at least has learned the lesson for now. This car just passes by.

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    Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 9:53 AM

    £19k?  Wind up rear windows?  That's pretty bad. 

     I think the exterior looks ok, especially the rear, but why so much bigger and heavier?  Surely it's going to come back to bite them when the (fairly) imminent new Focus and Golf come on to the market, presumably substantially lighter (based on the new Fiesta etc), and buyers go for them for their suposedly increased eco-credentials.

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    Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 10:29 AM

    Who is going to pay £18,800 for a sub premium hatchback with no performance.

    It makes the 1.4T Audi A3 look like cracking value!

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  • Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM

    Cromwell:
    Who is going to pay £18,800

     

    Nobody. £2000 discount on a new one, double that for a pre-reg and £9K for a year old ex rental at the local Car Supermarket. Is a bland bland car. Just the sort of thing that would appear outside my front door on the back of a transporter courtesy of my old mean fleet manager who never missed a good deal. It'll sell but those driving it wont be smiling or maybe they will don't think It drives that badly at all. It's the poor souls who have to look at it who'll suffer. Shame really I thought the old 3dr was a bit of a looker.

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    Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 2:37 PM

    Autocar:
    Vauxhall has been so much in the news with the saga of who will or won’t own it
     

    No, actually Opel has been in the news, Vauxhall badge engineering is quite irrelevant here.

    Autocar:
    we commend Vauxhall for taking the time and making the effort to tune its electric steering specifically for UK roads
     

    Let's be fair, actually specifically for UK's motoring journalists...

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    Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 7:45 PM

    How much!!!! Sorry, but this price is far too high. So we have a slow, heavy, overpriced car with high CO2 levels from a financially suspect manufacturer. OK the Pound  is now worth close to squat but this car is  built in the UK. Reduce the price  vauxhall and improve your engines and I might be tempted to put some money your way

     

  • Re: Vauxhall Astra 1.4T SRi

    Oct 28, 2009 8:15 PM

    tannedbaldhead:
    really I thought the old 3dr was a bit of a looker.
     

    Have to agree there. That car is going to be really popular with boy-racers in another year or two.

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