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  • Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 3:51 AM

    Porsche is prepared to share the Panamera and 911 platforms with other Volkswagen Group brands, according to new boss Michael Macht.

    Macht said Porsche will pursue co-operative projects now that it
is part of VW. “Porsche needs to become a strong pillar of VW, as well as having its own production and research and development capabilities. It is important to 
use synergies as well as having independence,” he said.

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    • kirin98
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    Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 3:58 AM

     

    Sharing with Lamborghini or Bugatti would seem reasonable, but with Audi and VW would be sacrilege. Imagine the modern-day Beatle with 997 chassis, now that would be a real twist of fate!

  • Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 8:10 AM

    kirin98:
    Imagine the modern-day Beatle with 997 chassis

    Beetle, for heaven's sake.

    Autocar:

    Porsche has also been looking at an electric car. “It would have to have the same driveability, performance, acceleration and the same range as a typical Porsche,” said Macht.

    “The technology that exists now doesn’t fit with Porsche requirements. It will be a minimum of two years before the technology is up to scratch

     

    Good to see Porsche thinks(knows) milkfloat power is still a pipedream, for a serious car - 'at least two years away' - read minimum ten, if ever.

  • Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 9:14 AM

    "...apart from the Cayenne’s V6, Porsche will not use any other VW Group engines".

    Yeah right. So the forthcoming Diesel Panamera will have a unique engine then?

    The platform sharing does mean the R4 (baby R8) will probably happen now. Nice.

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    Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 9:51 AM

    This is what worried my about a VW takeover - platform sharing in the VW group within VW, Seat, Audi, Skoda has lead to cars that are so close together they to me become lacking in any individual character. As a Boxster owner, I cringe at the thought of having a rebodied Audi - if I feel this way, how is a 911 owner going feel! When I bought the Boxster, I wanted something individual and have admired Porsche's independence. I deliberately didn't want an Audi, BM or Merc. From the rumours now flying around, I wonder that next time I look to purchase a new car, the cache that Porsche has enjoyed will be considerably watered down - accepting the Cayenne as a Porsche has been bad enough! Surely after the takeover let Porsche do what it does best - make individual sports cars with their own engines! Go upmarket, not down. Exploit that gap between ordinary cars and supercars - few brands have the ability to do this. When people talk of Porsches and VW sharing major technology from the past, the former was in a different market position - when you're selling £100K plus 911 Turbos the situation is very different. The Germans seem to think at the moment that any brand can cover every market - the VW Phaeton proved this isn't the case If a Porsche becomes a rebodied Audi, I might as well buy a Mercedes, a BM, a Lexus...
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    Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 11:44 AM

     

     by my side I do not see any problem...

    I just might add that the 911 platform it`s a little tricky, because I do not see any chance in Lamborghini, Bugatti, Bentley, Skoda, Seat, Audi, Volkswagen, Scania to made use of a rear-powered engine car... unless we should consider the Scania Buses...

    So, to all the fanatics:

    Keep dreaming about the "independence"

    what I can clearlly see is that the future 911`s in place of using Thyssen-Krupp axles will use probably axles also in use in the next Bugattis, Lambos, Bentleys??

    what in the 911 is sooooo Porsche?

    the Brembo brakes?

    the SWF pumps?

    the Koito headlamps?

    the Aisin gearboxes?

    the Luk clutchs? 

    see?

  • Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 12:20 PM

    kirin98:
    Imagine the modern-day Beatle with 997 chassis,

     

    Now what a beetle that would be.

    Just a hairy man in a waxed world.
  • Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 2:36 PM

    tannedbaldhead:

    kirin98:
    Imagine the modern-day Beatle with 997 chassis,

     

    Now what a beetle that would be.

    nah - Skodas used to be rear engined and had interesting handling characteristics  - bring out a new Skoda Rapid with a GT3 engine in the back ..... :o)

    here is an extract from Wikipedia "The new 130 models silenced the earlier criticism that had been made in some quarters of tail-happy handling, with the prominent UK motoring magazine "Autocar and Motor" remarking in 1988 that the new 136 Rapid model "handles like a Porsche 911"

    now I should be called 44 cars so far ... and 21 motorbikes !
  • Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 3:28 PM

    tannedbaldhead:

    kirin98:
    Imagine the modern-day Beatle with 997 chassis,

     

    Now what a beetle that would be.

    Julian Lennon with a flat six?

    "The pump dont work cause the vandals took the handles." (Robert Allen Zimmerman)
  • Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 3:41 PM

    Maybe, maybe the future 911 won't be a rear engined layout... I know it's almost as unimaginable as the fall of the iron curtain. But still.
    Who would have thought that Skodas would turn into cheaper versions of Golfs...

    Porsche has now proven that the Cayman is worthy of the badge. And they are just using the Cayman as a mid-range priced sports car. Time for the next step.

    • Put a 911-looking body on top of a Cayman chassis and ship it with a 400 bhp engine and a standard LSD.
    • Ask Walter Röhrl to run a few laps around the Nordschleife to prove it's quicker.
    • Put a 911-ish price tag on it to make it desirable...


    Voila, the Porsche 911 (999) is born.

    Few will miss the rear seats of the old school 911. Luggage space and handling will improve a bit.

    Without doubt you are not completely sane
  • Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 3:46 PM

    38carssofar:

    tannedbaldhead:

    kirin98:
    Imagine the modern-day Beatle with 997 chassis,

     

    Now what a beetle that would be.

    nah - Skodas used to be rear engined and had interesting handling characteristics  - bring out a new Skoda Rapid with a GT3 engine in the back ..... :o)

    here is an extract from Wikipedia "The new 130 models silenced the earlier criticism that had been made in some quarters of tail-happy handling, with the prominent UK motoring magazine "Autocar and Motor" remarking in 1988 that the new 136 Rapid model "handles like a Porsche 911"

    Oddly enough I remember reading a roadtest of the Rapid Coupe where it was described as an ideal low powered trainer for budding 911 drivers to be.

    Modern, high powered 911 based Skoda Rapid coupe?  I think you have something with potential 38cars. Wonder if anyone from VAG or Porsche ever read Autocar Forum?

    Just a hairy man in a waxed world.
  • Re: Porsche 'must share platforms'

    Oct 22, 2009 4:43 PM

    So, Porsche will not be sharing engines because: “Engine development is a core value for Porsche,” Macht said.

    ...'Conveniently' forgetting the 924

    Or am I just being pedantic?

    Take no notice, I'm only here for the biscuits
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