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  • Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 1:22 AM

    The big question surrounding the all-new Noble M600 appears to be: is it really worth an entire BMW 5-series more than a McLaren MP4-12C or a Ferrari 458 Italia? But that’s precisely how much Noble Automotive will be charging for this machine when it goes on sale next year: a cool £200,000.


    Given that it’s hand-built in small premises on the outskirts of Leicester, by a team of fewer than 20 people, this does sound like an awful lot of money for a car that few people will ever recogni...Read the full article

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    Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 7:20 AM

    What we are talking about is one of the fastest cars that has ever been built for use on the public road, in light of which £200k no longer seems quite so crazy.

    Sorry, I think it still does. You can only use a fraction of that performance here in the UK, the rest of the time you'll be just getting places and probably missing all the comforts you take so much for granted in everyday cars that they don't register until they are not there.  I'm not a fan of the new McLaren but even without the price gap it seems to be a vastly more appealing proposition.  I'm gravely concerned about the long term viability of Noble if they are hanging their hat on this pricing structure.  Lets face it, we've been here before too many times to count.
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    Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 9:06 AM

    The people at Noble are greedy bums, LOOOOOOOOL!

    £200k for a car that's built by a company that's only 10 years old? Here today, gone tomorrow... you won't even be able to get replacement parts, forget about having a guarantee...

    The car has no status and that's what most people buy expensive sports cars for. They don't buy them for racing...

    Forget the Noble, I'll have a Lamborghini Gallardo + Mercedes E250 CDI convertible and some cash in my pocket.

  • Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 9:42 AM

    You're not looking at this car in the same way the eventual buyers will. To them, £200k is like £20k to us. They won't care that they could buy a Lamborghini and a Merc for the same price - they'll already have a Merc, and several other cars as well most probably. This car is aimed squarely at those well-off people who want something different, something that very few other people in the world will have.

    If I had millions in the bank, I probably wouldn't buy one because it's not my cup of tea - I'd have a Zonda instead, but I can see where Noble are coming from with this. They appear to have made a supercar that can live with the best that's around today and will only be made in small numbers.

    Performance and exclusivity - you don't get that very often.


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    Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 10:08 AM

    Generally speaking, when you pay 200k you should get performance, exclusivity and style.

    This car is really, really ugly. The engine is the same (tweaked) of a Volvo XC90. It has no heritage. And the future of the company is quite difficult to predict.

    The car tested by autocar seems to be a pre-production chassis. Was it worth a road test? No Abs, no traction control working... mmmhhh

    Give me a Ferrari 459 or the Macca, please.  

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    Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 10:09 AM

    The absence of ABS is a bit bonkers and hard to justify as a 'handling purity' feature when the competition manages to incorporate it without any problem. If Noble are so purist about it then why not make it a switchable feature? And even the filthy rich might think twice about buying this car secondhand if it has to go back to the (20-man) factory to have the pedal box reset to accommodate new owners of different physical stature. Both of these foibles feel a bit like make a virtue out of some kind of necessity that's dictated either by cost or design. Either that, or just oddly shallow thinking by Noble.
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    Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 10:11 AM

    tonym911:
    The absence of ABS is a bit bonkers and hard to justify as a 'handling purity' feature when the competition manages to incorporate it without any problem. If Noble are so purist about it then why not make it a switchable feature?

     

    Because the development would have costed 1 million (that's what Sutters said). THat's the only reason.

  • Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 10:27 AM

    200 grand for something that still has the whiff of kit car about it? I don't think so. So it drives wonderfully? Well, so will a lot of other cars, 458, Macca etc but they have heritage, class and x factor that's completely missing here.
    1/1/12, the attack on the moobs begins...
  • Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 10:48 AM

    RednBlue:
    Generally speaking, when you pay 200k you should get performance, exclusivity and style.

    Exactly, and that's the problem with this car. If you want something insanely fast that doesn't look anything special, you could get an Ultima for a fraction of the price.

    If only they'd spent as much time on making it look as impressive as it goes. They could have sponsored a student project for the Coventry or RCA design courses, for example.

  • Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 11:33 AM

    Colonel Snappy:
    Exactly, and that's the problem with this car. If you want something insanely fast that doesn't look anything special, you could get an Ultima for a fraction of the price.

     

    This perfectly sums up the problem with this car.

    It is a 21st century version of a Victorian folly - built because it could be - not because anybody might want it ...

    now I should be called 44 cars so far ... and 21 motorbikes !
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    Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 12:10 PM

    For the small numbers it will be built in I don't see a problem finding enough wealthy enthusiasts wanting to put one in their collection.  The problem I can see is finding ones with enough ability and wealth if you catch my drift.  (Cos I don't think they'll be catching theirs, and repeat customers might be a big issue in the future).

  • Re: Noble M600

    Oct 14, 2009 1:45 PM

     this is utter madness to charge this money for this thing when the well known supercar makers i.e lamborghini and ferrari are offering better looking cars with more pedigree!  in my opinion nothing can touch lamborghini gallardo lp560-4 in this category i know where i would be putting my money and its not here

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