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  • McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 6:30 AM

    This is the MP4-12C mid-engined supercar, which will go on sale sometime in 2011.

    Its designation comes from three sources: ‘MP4’ because every McLaren grand prix car has used that designation since 1981, ‘12’ because that’s its efficiency coefficient according to a secret McLaren performance scale, and ‘C’ because the important bits are made from carbonfibre.

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  • Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 6:32 AM

    Autocar:
    ‘C’ because the important bits are made from carbonfibre.
     

    Autocar:
    Why no carbonfibre panels? Carbon would be costly and deliver no extra function; better to spend the money on fruitful refinements in other areas.

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  • Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 7:29 AM

    Looks good inside and out, and the hollow tub, precog and interconnected dampers are clever, genuinely useful pieces of engineering. Hugely preferable to the usual gimmicks.
  • Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 7:31 AM

    That power in a car weighing as much as a mini?! YES PLEASE

  • Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 7:52 AM

     

    front of the car looks very Ferrari, & then things just get poor around the back....

  • Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 8:01 AM

     My first imprssion was of a toned-down F1, particularly around the rear half. The grille at the front doesn't look quite right, but with a number plate in the middle it'll help break up that oddly shaped black grille area.

     

    Otherwise, very nice. I'd take one over a Ferrari any day.

  • Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 8:16 AM

    I like it, just a hint of the F1.....

  • Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 8:21 AM

    beautiful motor - not overly sure why it's another Autocar 'exclusive' though when the BBC had all this covered a day before you. ho hum.
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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 8:24 AM

    It looks good from the back, not sure about the rest ;-)

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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 8:29 AM

    Nice design with some F1 DNA. It will do well and will pose a tough choice between the Macca and a F458 for those who can afford it.
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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 8:35 AM

    I'll confess to being a little underwhelmed by the styling, even if they didn't set out to design a Zonda. Looks a little too generic in overall shape.

    However, the tech specs are impressive enough.

    Is the engine by Ilmor? They make the formula 1 engines and are, I think, fully owned by Merc?
  • Re: McLaren MP4-12C revealed

    Sep 09, 2009 8:58 AM

    philcUK:
    ... not overly sure why it's another Autocar 'exclusive' though when the BBC had all this covered a day before you. ho hum.

    EVO had this up as another exclusive a day earlier too. No matter, though, because no one forces you to read this, you know, and so it's only a pedant who worries himself over journalistic accuracy and all that worthiness. Who cares?

    marktobin:
    Front of the car looks very Ferrari, & then things just get poor around the back.

    I don't think they've copied the looks at all. The Ferrari is not particularly striking, but it has its merits. The McLaren's body is at best bland and at worst ugly. The worst aspect is the double-slot air intake: it is an attempt to add an interesting surface, but aesthetically it doesn't work. The more I look at the rear, the more it appeals, but viewed from the rear three-quarter angle, the line from the A-pillar back along to the rear haunches gives an overall impression of being awkwardly resolved. The whole thing smacks just a smidge of a refined kit car.

    In this car's body design, I think McLaren have betrayed the fact that they aren't particularly artistic; yet they've tried to make this car more than just a state-of-the-art functional object (as the F1 was) and tried to invest more in the value of form. The good thing is that where McLaren, at its core, does not appear to have an eye for beauty, they do engineer things like perhaps nobody else can; with a sublime attention to detail and mechanical development.

    For me, it's a bit of a shame but no disaster that they've tried and partly failed to produce something good-looking, but that will hopefully be an irrelevance when people experience the chassis and engine. If the car is flawed and not class-leading as a driving machine, McLaren will have made an unfortunate boob. I doubt that will be the case, though.

    In all but its visual impact and artistry, the McLaren MC-NUTS-N-BOLTS-WD40 is a worthy market rival to the Ferrari 458 Italia, and now creates a ghastly dilemma for anybody who is thinking of buying the Ferrari. Whoever came up with the name, though, must be ever-so-slightly autistic.

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