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  • Audi's fast TT trio: TTS, TTRS, TT TDi

    Dec 05, 2007 5:30 PM

    The Audi TT has always been a bit of an anticlimax for performance car fans; it’s a car that’s never been quite as great to drive as it is to behold.
    But Audi’s got a sea change in store for its smallest coupe and cabrio siblings. Three new sporting models arriving before the end of decade will inject a massive dose of driving appeal into the TT’s mix – a Cayman-rivalling TTS, a BMW M3-chasing TTRS, and an all new twin turbo TT diesel – and we’ve got the documents to prove it.

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  • Re: Audi's fast TT trio: TTS, TTRS, TT TDi

    Dec 05, 2007 5:36 PM

     Great! New TT models....

     Umm... I think the TDi is a good addition, although I think the 123d will still trounce it - I can imagine that diesel 4 being very loud, not sure about the TTRS, I personally think that it's too close to the R8 and I really think it needs real-wheel-drive. TTS - good, but we all know it'll be nowhere near the Cayman dynamically...

     Note to Audi, how about a high revving 1.8 FSI 4? With about 180bhp @7500rpm and maybe 160lb/ft@ about 3500 rpm?? If they want a "motorsport" feel, this is the only way to go. Keep it simple.

     

  • Re: Audi's fast TT trio: TTS, TTRS, TT TDi

    Dec 05, 2007 6:36 PM

    Funny you should mention the 4 pot TDi being very loud - Audi (VW) have introduced a new version of the 2.0 litre which is now common rail as opposed to the traditional PD. This must have made a sea of change to the refinement, although i havn't tested one as of yet.

    And dont make judgements on the TTRS with regards to the Cayman just yet, remember when people didnt hold the R8 and the 911 in the same league before it came out? With the RS4, Audi have shown what can be done with their standard chassis and I believe this will also be the case for the future TTRS, RS6 and RSR8. It's just a matter of time before we find out.....

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    Re: Audi's fast TT trio: TTS, TTRS, TT TDi

    Dec 05, 2007 7:01 PM

    Aston Parkes:
    I think the 123d will still trounce it

    maybe in terms of technical merit, but lets face it, people buy cars like the TT on the basis of looks, and here the 123d is nowhere.

     

    Bring it!!
  • Re: Audi's fast TT trio: TTS, TTRS, TT TDi

    Dec 05, 2007 10:54 PM

    Yes very true...although I am an advocate of simple, uncomplicated ranges - so I guess my bias showed. Nothing is proven positive or negative as yet - but thats an opinion I would loved to be proved wrong on....

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    Re: Audi's fast TT trio: TTS, TTRS, TT TDi

    Dec 19, 2007 7:57 PM

    Aston Parkes:

    Yes very true...although I am an advocate of simple, uncomplicated ranges - so I guess my bias showed. Nothing is proven positive or negative as yet - but thats an opinion I would loved to be proved wrong on....

     

    I fail to see how the BMW 123d will come within a country mile of the TT tdi. For starters the TT is 69% aluminium so it will be much lighter than the porker. Both cars have almost identical power outputs at 202 bhp and 295 ib/ft of torque. The TT will be quattro so it will be able to use all its power and torque come rain or shine unlike the BMW.

    Also, in the looks department the Audi has the BMW in a Full Nelson hold, slapping the canvas in submission. Considering the TT's weight, traction and design advantages I can't see the BMW holding a candle to it and the sales of this awkward looking ageing BMW will surely only be contributed to by those blinded by the badge and satisfied with mediocrity!

     
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